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Hi there this is my first post

I have recently purchased a new computer and am pretty keen to know how to overclock. I have never done it before but I understand the principle behind it. Because I’m an amateur I want to start off by just over clocking my CPU and maybe my memory. I suppose I should list the specifications which are relevant.

Intel e6700
Gigabyte GA 965P DQ6 motherboard
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I have heard that the Intel E6700 can be overclocked easily to 3.66 using the Asus P5B Deluxe and I was wondering if I could reach similar speeds with the GA 965P DQ6. I understand that it’s not as good as the Asus in respects to overclocking but reading over the net I have heard various speeds which the Gigabyte board can reach using a E6700 using air cooling.

Because I have never done this before I am unsure on how quickly I should progress in regards to tuning the FSB and voltage and I am also unsure on how much voltage I should be applying for an increase in FSB. If anyone by any chance has similar or identical specifications maybe you could help me through here and advise me what I should be changing and by how much.
I have posted a picture of the Gigabyte GA 965P DQ6’s BIOS in hope you can aid me through this.



I understand that because my CPU was a ‘cheapy’ that I cannot turn up the CPU clock ratio.I am assuming that the CPU host frequency is the FSB which is going to be changed to around, ideally, 366? (by the way please correct me if I am wrong, throughout any stage of this) and the voltages which I will be tweaking will be the bottom 3.

Now where do I start….. :/
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post #2 of 19
Enter your BIOS. Press the Ctrl + F1 key to access the extended settings.

Enter your BIOS. Press the Ctrl + F1 key to access the extended settings.



You may have to increase the core voltage a bit to gain stability but I have seen some not need to do so. Download CoreTemp from:

http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...p/CoreTemp.zip

What does your VID say? Also, if you have a retail boxed part, look to the retail box and the bar code. You will see the FPO/Batch numbers (ie. L629B359). What is it?

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oh!... sorry, m8... saw the title and thought you needed help with another topic.... nevermind
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Firstly Thanks.

Secondly it was an OEM chip so I have no retail packaging left.

So technically (again correct me if I am wrong) 8x400 = 3200 so the processor would be clocked at 3.20?

Also, would I just set those settings up, restart my PC and hope for the best that the voltages are correct and everything and that my PC doesn’t become a premature doorstop?

You also say
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You may have to increase the core voltage a bit to gain stability
I am assuming that you are referring to the bit which says "CPU VOLTAGE CONTROL" as the voltage has remained as default

Again, thanks for your help it's much appreciated.
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Firstly Thanks.
Your welcome

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Secondly it was an OEM chip so I have no retail packaging left.
There are two (that I know of VID's for the Core2 Desktop CPU). Most are 1.325V and some are 1.25V. If you download Core Temp you will see which one you have and post the information here.

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So technically (again correct me if I am wrong) 8x400 = 3200 so the processor would be clocked at 3.20?
Yes, and that is a good basis point to start the overclock. You may end up with less FSB and more Multiplier. 9 X 355 = ~3.2GHz. However, a higher FSB and lower Multiplier (if you have ram that will take it) will give a better performance. If you wish you can set the FSB to 300, then 350, then 400 also and step it up.

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Also, would I just set those settings up, restart my PC and hope for the best that the voltages are correct and everything and that my PC doesn’t become a premature doorstop?
You can not hurt your system doing this. If the system does not start, then you can shut it down and restart whilst holding down the "Insert" key until it reboots with default settings, then enter the BIOS and make changes. Actually with these boards, if they don't boot, they will almost always automatically disable the overclock and reboot so that you can enter the BIOS.

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You also say I am assuming that you are referring to the bit which says "CPU VOLTAGE CONTROL" as the voltage has remained as default
This depends on your VID. Download Core Temp and post your VID readout.

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So technically (again correct me if I am wrong) 8x400 = 3200 so the processor would be clocked at 3.20?
Yeah, I'm learning



seems quite a lot of useful infomation there. As far as i know thats about average for a ideal conroe processor.
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Yes, you can begin your overclocking. I would step it up from 266FSB --> 300 --> 350 --> 400 first. See what you can do with default voltages. If 300 works but not 350 then try 340.

You can also see what your Maximum FSB is by setting your Multiplier to 6X and see how high you can move up your FSB. Use default voltages. When you can not increase the FSB anymore then you can increase the CPU voltage incrementally and retest for stability.

Use Orthos dual prime for stability testing.

http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm

You need to have a good hour of testing so if you do it the way I originally mentioned then you can more easily determine your maximals.

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When you can not increase the FSB anymore then you can increase the CPU voltage incrementally and retest for stability.
I havn't tried this as of yet but are you saying that the bios refuses the user to change voltages to a certain state if it feels the FSB is too high? or are you reffering to the fact that the PC wont boot at all.

You say 8x is a good basing point as perfomance is better than say 10x - the information is new to me as i thought you want higher the better (purposley why high end processors have the multiplyer unlocked.) Also i thought higher the FSB the more strain it placed on other components of the computer?
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I havn't tried this as of yet but are you saying that the bios refuses the user to change voltages to a certain state if it feels the FSB is too high? or are you reffering to the fact that the PC wont boot at all.
I think he means once you have maxed out that FSB at that current Voltage you may have to increase the volts before you can proceed.
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What I am saying is that if you have your FSB at 400 and your multiplier at 8X then you will find that benchmarks show this 3.2GHz to be faster than a FSB of 355 X 9 = ~3.2GHz. You want the highest stable FSB with the highest stable multiplier and in that order. Then once you have found that, you move to tweaking your ram.

Enterprise is also correct. Once you have found instability with your FSB you raise your core voltage incrementally. If you are still finding instability then you can raise your MCH (Memory Controller Hub) incrementally to test for stability. However, test out your CPU voltages first and leave the MCH to the later parts of your overclock.

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