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post #291 of 345
Actually, I moved between the Deathadder 2013 and the Deathadder Black after this talk of smoothing started. I noticed no difference in input lag or any other placebo that made me think the movements of the cursor were not my own. I do, however, use a 120Hz monitor, which some say eliminates the perceived input lag.
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I'm on a 120hz monitor as well. I think the game you're playing might matter too. When I play DOTA (I don't really concentrate on the smoothness of my cursor) or BF3 (which has a ton of input lag from the game engine) I don't really notice the difference either. However when I play CSGO (fast paced FPS with a relatively low lag engine) I can feel the difference.
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I'm on a 120hz monitor as well. I think the game you're playing might matter too. When I play DOTA (I don't really concentrate on the smoothness of my cursor) or BF3 (which has a ton of input lag from the game engine) I don't really notice the difference either. However when I play CSGO (fast paced FPS with a relatively low lag engine) I can feel the difference.

You got me there... I mainly play BF4, Dota2, SC2, and WoW.
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You got me there... I mainly play BF4, Dota2, SC2, and WoW.

Did you add me yet on BattleLog? lol

It's T3rm1n47Fury.
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Did you add me yet on BattleLog? lol

It's T3rm1n47Fury.

Not yet. To be honest, I've been sucked into my ridiculous backlog of console stuff as of late. Frikkin' Titanfall and Dark Souls...
post #296 of 345
Little update on my Deathadder:

Original ordered December 29, 2012.
First one RMA'd in February 2013 due to Mouse 5 collapsing into the mouse. RMA process took 6+ weeks to just get a response, had to message CEO on facebook to get it going.
Second one RMA'd June 2013 due to the Second mouse button making a crunching noise and often doing multiple key presses with a single press.
Third one might possible be RMA'd April 2014 due to Mouse 5 collapsing into the mouse, again.

Man, these products are awesome to use but frustrating to own. I need a DA similar product to replace this thing with. I'll RMA, and keep it as a backup in the cabinet but I can't keep doing this crap.
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Little update on my Deathadder:

Original ordered December 29, 2012.
First one RMA'd in February 2013 due to Mouse 5 collapsing into the mouse. RMA process took 6+ weeks to just get a response, had to message CEO on facebook to get it going.
Second one RMA'd June 2013 due to the Second mouse button making a crunching noise and often doing multiple key presses with a single press.
Third one might possible be RMA'd April 2014 due to Mouse 5 collapsing into the mouse, again.

Man, these products are awesome to use but frustrating to own. I need a DA similar product to replace this thing with. I'll RMA, and keep it as a backup in the cabinet but I can't keep doing this crap.

Can always try the Corsair M45 or the SteelSeries Rival or Mionix Naos/Avior 7000
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Can always try the Corsair M45 or the SteelSeries Rival or Mionix Naos/Avior 7000

I wouldn't go to Corsair or Mionix to replace the Deathadder. If you're wanting something similar to the DA, I'd have to recommend the Zowie EC1 EVO. It's damn near the exact shape, size, and weight as the Deathadder, it has a fantastic sensor, and great build quality. You'd have to adjust to the weird DPI steps and super low LOD, but I love them.

The other, easier, way to go is to pick up a Deathadder Black 3.5G. They're still widely available and give you that shape with a great sensor and mine have all been bullet proof. The only downside of the mouse is the ridiculous LOD, and that can be cured by a tape trick.

I've heard some people moving from the Deathadder to the Rival and being pretty happy. I own both and have no idea how that's even possible. They are entirely different shapes and sizes. The deathadder is smaller and has a very simple shape, while the Rival feels much more substantial in the hand. Longer and taller. The sensor on the Rival is superior (although I haven't heard if the new Firmware fixes the random DPI issues), and I do love my Rival. I just wouldn't put it in the same class as the Deathadder as far as being interchangeable.
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I wouldn't go to Corsair or Mionix to replace the Deathadder. If you're wanting something similar to the DA, I'd have to recommend the Zowie EC1 EVO. It's damn near the exact shape, size, and weight as the Deathadder, it has a fantastic sensor, and great build quality. You'd have to adjust to the weird DPI steps and super low LOD, but I love them.

The other, easier, way to go is to pick up a Deathadder Black 3.5G. They're still widely available and give you that shape with a great sensor and mine have all been bullet proof. The only downside of the mouse is the ridiculous LOD, and that can be cured by a tape trick.

I've heard some people moving from the Deathadder to the Rival and being pretty happy. I own both and have no idea how that's even possible. They are entirely different shapes and sizes. The deathadder is smaller and has a very simple shape, while the Rival feels much more substantial in the hand. Longer and taller. The sensor on the Rival is superior (although I haven't heard if the new Firmware fixes the random DPI issues), and I do love my Rival. I just wouldn't put it in the same class as the Deathadder as far as being interchangeable.

The only problem is that the Zowie has an inferior sensor and amazingly awful warranty support behind it. It's not like SteelSeries has any better support though but Mionix does. The Rival, M45, and Mionix mice all share the same sensor that's why I recommended them. Coming from a DA 3.5 myself the Rival was a godsend. Such a comfortable mouse. Loved it, and the random CPI switching glitch actually is solved now.
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The only problem is that the Zowie has an inferior sensor and amazingly awful warranty support behind it. It's not like SteelSeries has any better support though but Mionix does. The Rival, M45, and Mionix mice all share the same sensor that's why I recommended them. Coming from a DA 3.5 myself the Rival was a godsend. Such a comfortable mouse. Loved it, and the random CPI switching glitch actually is solved now.

I wouldn't say the Zowie mice have an inferior sensor to the DA 2013. Both of them have issues. I have never had any issue with Zowie customer support, and have always been happy with the performance of the mice. However, I'm far from a pro and don't play much in the way of twitchy shooters like CS and Quake. I'd say my fastest mouse movement would be in the 3.5ms range. That fits nicely with the Zowie brand.
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