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well basically I can upgrade for free so please no comments saying your setup is still a beast.. I know it is .. but I can go to the latest tech for hardly nothing so it's stupid if I didn't

I got my eye on the i7 3770k, please dont counter price in the comparsion why I should get the 2600k instead

board choice.. Gene V z77 or sabertooth z77??

also looking for the best ram for the money..


would like to have advantage of having high ram clock speeds but with good value at the same time

really need your thoughts, suggestions and opinions!

thank you
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Extreme 4? Don't need a high end board with Ivy on air or water.
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i don't want to downgrade my current motherboard^
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The only reason I would see to get the 2600k instead was if it was for a much lower price. What are you going to be cooling it with? That can at least give us an idea of what clocks you will be able to it with either chip. 2600k has the ability to clock to 5.0GHz, Ivy Bridge really doesn't clock that high all that often unless you are going with a custom loop or delidding the chip.

If you are looking for the fastest possible Ram speed then you're going to have to go with the Gene V (Except anything over 1600MHz is considered Overclocked). However, faster ram over 1600MHz doesn't really benefit all that much, and faster ram really only shows up in benchmarks by marginal values.

8 gb of decent 2800MHz ram costs $300 and again that is the speed at which you will see performance increases the most (in benchmarks and applications). However, you can get 8 gb of 2133 G.SKILL Ripjaws for $50 (and 8 gb of 1600 for $35). Anything over that would be a waste of money, not because of the speed advantages you may gain, but the price to performance ratio.

Difference (%) in memory benchmarks versus difference (%) in memory module price

Not more than 15% increase over 1600MHz, despite 33% increase in cost. (1600MHz ~ 2133MHz)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3/3
Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 12/6/12 at 7:14pm
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can you upgrade for free going to sb-e? the x58 uses tri-channel and the x79 - quad channel. your ram will work for any of these. my rams for both my amd and intel rigs are from my x58 platform.
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Originally Posted by Asus11 View Post

.. but I can go to the latest tech for hardly nothing so it's stupid if I didn't
I got my eye on the i7 3770k, please dont counter price in the comparsion why I should get the 2600k instead

Well since you don't have to actually pay that much or basically get it for free, i7 3770k biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Asus11 View Post

board choice.. Gene V z77 or sabertooth z77??

Between the 2...Gene V all the way thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Asus11 View Post

also looking for the best ram for the money..
would like to have advantage of having high ram clock speeds but with good value at the same time

Looking for the best ram on the market?
Just buy these...Samsung Green Low Voltage 1600MHz thumbsupsmiley.png

Check out the thread for this AWESOME memory... http://www.overclock.net/t/1210482/samsung-2x4gb-low-voltage-ddr3-1600-kit-ocing-to-2400-discussion

Here are some site reviews that proves this memory is the real deal...
  1. http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1959/1/
  2. http://www.kitguru.net/components/memory/zardon/samsung-green-ddr3-8gb-1600mhz-30nm-memory-review/
  3. http://www.eteknix.com/reviews/memory/samsung-green-ddr3-1600mhz-8gb-30nm-memory-kit-review/
  4. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Samsung/MV-3V4G3/

Edited by drBlahMan - 12/6/12 at 7:34pm
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Unless you are deliding the Ivy, the Sandy will clock higher due to heat issues. If you don't want to go with the delid, most guys say that an Ivy bridge, clock for clock, is about equal to a Sandy +300MHz. So in other words, an Ivy @ 4GHz = a Sandy @ 4.3GHz.

There is also the power consumption. Normally, less power = less heat, but because Intel decided to use TIM instead of solder on the die and the IHS, so Ivy actually runs hotter, as stated before. It does use less power though.

Also, there is no real performance difference with 1600MHz RAM to 2800MHz RAM with the new Intel CPUs, contrary to popular belief. With Intel, it is the timings that matter. This is because of how the IMC (Memory Controller) on the chip works, and handles RAM. I use G.Skill RipJawsX 1600MHz @ 9-9-9-24, but you can find some 1600MHz 7-7-7-20 I'm sure.

EDIT: The Sabertooth is a gimmick, it's supposed to seem high performance, but if you actually look at the specs, it is just a flashy mid-range motherboard that most people buy because it has a cool name and looks unique.
    
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If you're going to game, I'd say go with the 3570k, whereas if you're going to multi-task and use apps like Photoshop, I'd recommend the i7 2600k; there you can benefit from the Hyper-Threading.

I'd argue G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM, but I can't afford any at the moment. Maybe wait for a special.

If you're on the cheap, Rip-Jaw G.SKILLS 4GB 2X2 1600mhz OC'd to 1800mhz.
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With Intel, it is the timings that matter. This is because of how the IMC (Memory Controller) on the chip works, and handles RAM.

Not at all what X-bit Labs' testing found. Speed still doesn't matter much though, you are right about that.
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Thus, memory timings have indeed become a rather insignificant parameter for today’s computers. When choosing DDR3 SDRAM for an Ivy Bridge processor, you should consider its clock rate in the first place whereas a low CAS Latency and other timings are in fact unimportant. The same goes for tweaking and overclocking: you should first focus on increasing the clock rate of your DDR3 SDRAM and only then minimize its latencies if you want to.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ivy-bridge-ddr3_3.html#sect0
post #10 of 14
Buy what you can afford.

Any quality 1600Mhz Ram will do the job. You can and if you want to get 1866 ram.

And if money is no object, then get fastest ram there is.
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