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Hello OCN! I am in the process of a new build and I would love some recommendations on parts I have not ordered yet, parts I may be missing or forgot to list, or even input on components I already purchased or own. I've heard a few bad things about some of the products listed, so I would definitely be interested in hearing your opinion. I specifically picked the ram based on what I am hearing about it. Supposedly you could overclock it quite easily with tight timings while still being under 1.5V. I may order the CPU/GPU last to see if the next generation is worth the purchase. As for fans, I am unaware which fans are the absolute best. It would be nice to completely fill the case with the best available fans and replace all the default fans that come with certain components. I have been looking at these fans but if there are better ones out there, feel free to shout! smile.gif

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Red: Waiting to Order/Out of Stock
Black: Undecided

Hardware

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K [Link]
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus V Formula
Case: COOLER MASTER COSMOS II [Link]
GPU: MSI N680GTX Twin Frozr 4GD5/OC [Link]
PSU: CORSAIR AX860i [Link]
Ram: (x2) SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) [Link]
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 Pro 256GB (Boot) [Link]
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 Pro 256GB (Games) [Link]

Cooling

Radiator: CORSAIR H100i [Link]
Fans: --
Fan Controller: --

Miscellaneous

Monitor: SAMSUNG Series 9 S27B970D [Link]
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 [Link]
Mouse: Razer Deathadder 2013
Desktop Mat: TracPad XXL Ripper
Mic: Blue Yeti Pro [Link]
Pop Filter: The Pop [Link]
Sound/Audio: Astro A40 Wireless MixAmp + Sennheiser PC360 (Onboard Audio) [Link 1] [Link 2]
Edited by problemgaming - 12/22/12 at 6:29am
post #2 of 21
If you'll only be gaming, the i7-3700K won't offer any increase in performance over a i5-3570K that's $100 cheaper. Get a 7970 instead of a GTX 680, it's cheaper and more powerful and once overclocked it'll blow the GTX 680 out of the water. thumb.gif
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If you'll only be gaming, the i7-3700K won't offer any increase in performance over a i5-3570K that's $100 cheaper. Get a 7970 instead of a GTX 680, it's cheaper and more powerful and once overclocked it'll blow the GTX 680 out of the water. thumb.gif

The 3770k has hyperthreading and a larger cache though. I occasionally do adventure into video editing every once in a while and server management for specific games where I can offload some work onto its own virtual thread. I also recall reading that you gain a small performance boost (2-5%-ish) and works great on games that do support multiple threads.

As for an AMD GPU, I have had bad experience in the past from AMD. Computer crashing, bad performance, bad drivers, late profiles for new games, etc. Nvidia has been pretty solid with their drivers, for me at least recently with my GTX 580. I'm hoping the GTX 7xx will blow the current generation out of the water. thumb.gif
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That motherboard is a bit expensive if you ask me. all you really need is a solid board for $130-$250 max.

I would go with a cheaper board

 

Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H - $190

Gigabyte Z77X-UP4 -  $185

ASRock Extreme4 - $135

 

if you want to keep with an expensive board, i wouldnt pay any more than this:

Gigabyte G.1 Sniper 3- $250 after rebate

ASRock Z77 OC Formula - $220

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CPU: Overkill if you are only playing games, it will not give you a performance boost over an i5.

Motherboard: Overkill, I would not spend this much on a motherboard unless I was going to use the 2011 socket. I would grab the Z77 UD5 or something in that price range.

SSD: Do not get a 256GB for a "boot" drive. Get a 64GB if you want a separate boot drive. Also, I have a 256GB SSD, and it is never over half full with my games, I move them to my HDD (Steammover) when I am done playing them. This keeps plenty of space of my SSD and this way I am not wasting it by storing my un-used games on it. You will not get any increase FPS from a SSD, only faster load times, Which will not help in multipiayer games.

Storage: Grab a 3TB HDD, they should be $130-$150. 256GB fills up fast for games.

GPU: Grab a 7970, it flip flops between games, but is a much better price than the GTX 680.

PSU: Good PSU, I actually want one myself. I think they have a lower model don't they? Like a 760i? It would be more than enough for even 2 cards.

RAM: if you are only gaming, grab 8GB. 8GB is more than enough.

Radiator: You could go custom cooling as well if you are up for the challenge

Thermal paste: You do not need Thermal paste, the H100i comes with good thermal paste pre-applied.

Monitor: IMO you made a big mistake here, you could have gotten a Dell U3011 for that price. That resolution will start becoming much cheaper, with all of the Korean 1440p IPSs on Ebay, the current manufacturers will have to lower their price.

Keyboard: If you are playing MMOs, grab the K90. If you are not playing MMOs, grab a better mech keyboard, I would grab a Das Professional Model S.

Mouse: I had the RAT 7 and it had some lens problems, I do not recommend it. I would however recommend you going to bestbuy or staples to see what sort of mouse you would like best. I personally Like the Razer Naga for MMOs.

Mic: Good mic, I have the snowball and I love it.

Other Audio: Why are you getting such a good mic and then a headset? the quality will not even be close to the same. Grab a nice Audio card like a ASUS Xonar DX and some nice cans like the Audio Technica ATH-AD700



Do you already have that i7 in your sig, upgrading to an Ivy Bridge is POINTLESS if you do. Overclock that as far as you can.
Edited by Ironman517 - 12/7/12 at 7:14am
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Well, looks fine, given you don't have a budget and don't care about money. Except, of course, Arctic Silver 5. Really? Talk about outdated & outclassed. Get Phobya HeGrease (hehe) or Gelid xtreme (something like that) - they're the same excellent paste, just a rebrand. If you even need it at all... P.S. your PSU isn't as top of the line as other options & it's terribly overwatted for only a single GPU. For a no-budget person, I'd make sure you at least get something hybrid fanless, like most of the Seasonic X-series. Ok, that's the newer AX-line that is hybrid fanless. Probably a re-branding of the very same Seasonic line I just mentioned.

But honestly, spending that much and gaming on only a single montior? Zzzzzz....

I'd looking at getting two more copies of your current monitor for multi-monitor gaming before blowing a few thousand on what is, ultimately, only a very small upgrade from your current system.

P.S. They sell paste remover? ***? Why not just use isopropyl alcohol? You can buy that at the supermarket for a dollar. Plus it works as a general house-cleaning solution & when camping is better than butter for getting tree sap off your hands.

Edit: Regarding Ironman's post above: I agree with most of it, particularly the headphone & mouse recommendation. Though for storage, just grab a 500gb SSD rather than two separate ones unless you plan on hot-swapping one or something weird like that. If you plan to store media, you will want a many terabyte HDD. But if you don't plan to store non-video game media, then there's no need for an old-school HDD.

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LOL Marketing BS to the qustion about paste remover I posted above:
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Why Not Just Use Isopropyl Alcohol or Acetone?
Put isopropyl alcohol or acetone on a thermal pad and 10 minutes later you will have a thermal pad. Only with a lot of rubbing and scrubbing will you be able to remove the pad. While the alcohol or acetone may soften the pad, neither actually dissolves the pad. Although less visible, it is the same cleaning thermal greases with alcohol or acetone.

Oh noes! With alcohol you have to rub gently with your thumb. THE HORROR! You know what? I think I'd rather have a substance just softens up the thermal grease so I can wipe it off. Not to mention I don't have to worry about isopropyl alcohol dissolving something OTHER than the thermal grease I'm trying to clean up. Plus I know alcohol will clean itself up by evaporating providing I blow on it or otherwise provide some airflow. I don't know that about whatever chemical solution Arctic put in the wacky marked-up bottles.
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Great replies. Really does help. thumb.gif
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CPU: It isn't necessarily a 100% gaming machine. I will be using it for everyday use so the best performance I can get, I'll take. Hoping the hyperthreading would help with specific programs and browsers.

Motherboard: Money isn't necessarily a factor. Heard the board I chose was overall pretty stable and overclocks well, so that is why I listed it.

Storage/SSD: The "boot" drive will be the main drive for the OS and all programs while the second SSD is for steam games. Typically I do not leave many games installed after I beat them. My current steam folder is 115GB, but that is with 12 games installed. I may look into the 512GB version of the 840 pro or 830 though. I don't really keep movies, videos, music, or photos on my computer, so I don't necessarily have a need for a 3TB HDD. Trying to get out of the HDD era anyways. tongue.gif

GPU: Again, money isn't necessarily a factor. I have had bad experience with ATI/AMD as well. Perhaps I will just wait until 8xxx product line from AMD or 7xx from nvidia and see how the performance turns out. Have SLI 580s, don't necessarily want to downgrade performance. However, been told many times to move to the best single GPU solution and want to get rid of all microstutter.

PSU: I have an AX850 now. Like it, so figured I would upgrade the new system to an AX860i. smile.gif

Radiator: Not a big fan of draining/refilling a custom water cooling setup. At least with the CPU water cooling, it doesn't require much maintenance because it is a closed loop.

Thermal Paste: Wasn't aware of the quality it came with. Had been using arctic silver 5 and it stated it could lower temps up to 12 C. As for the thermal paste remover, saw it in a video on newegg. Curiosity came to mind if it was any good. tongue.gif

Monitor: I love the samsung monitor though. smile.gif Never seen a dell U3011, but I heard the U3013 is coming out soon. Too late to return the samsung monitor anyways since I've had it for 3 months now. Besides, next monitor upgrade will probably be 4k resolution or 2k with 120hz.

Keyboard: Rarely play MMOs to be honest. But, I do like the overall look of the K90. Plus, it uses cherry mx red and with the dampers, it will be quiet. I'm aware not all keys are mechanical, but I've only owned a G19. So, I'm not familiar with what a "good" keyboard is.

Mouse: I currently use a razer mamba 2012. There are two things I dislike about it though. One, the software. Two, when holding down left and right click, then try to scroll, it has a certain force blocking the scroll. I was just curious if there was a better mouse than the mamba 2012.

Other Audio: Reason for the headset is I also use it for console gaming. Mostly a PC gamer, but I do have friends who play on console. Best thing for console is the setup I have now I believe. Also, if I picked up a sound card, wouldn't that lower the GPU PCIE slot from x16 to x8 since it is a 1155 board?

The rig in my sig is indeed what I have now. I am just handing it off down the family line and building myself a better one. smile.gif
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Great replies. Really does help. thumb.gif
CPU: It isn't necessarily a 100% gaming machine. I will be using it for everyday use so the best performance I can get, I'll take. Hoping the hyperthreading would help with specific programs and browsers.
Motherboard: Money isn't necessarily a factor. Heard the board I chose was overall pretty stable and overclocks well, so that is why I listed it.
Storage/SSD: The "boot" drive will be the main drive for the OS and all programs while the second SSD is for steam games. Typically I do not leave many games installed after I beat them. My current steam folder is 115GB, but that is with 12 games installed. I may look into the 512GB version of the 840 pro or 830 though. I don't really keep movies, videos, music, or photos on my computer, so I don't necessarily have a need for a 3TB HDD. Trying to get out of the HDD era anyways. tongue.gif
GPU: Again, money isn't necessarily a factor. I have had bad experience with ATI/AMD as well. Perhaps I will just wait until 8xxx product line from AMD or 7xx from nvidia and see how the performance turns out. Have SLI 580s, don't necessarily want to downgrade performance. However, been told many times to move to the best single GPU solution and want to get rid of all microstutter.
PSU: I have an AX850 now. Like it, so figured I would upgrade the new system to an AX860i. smile.gif
Radiator: Not a big fan of draining/refilling a custom water cooling setup. At least with the CPU water cooling, it doesn't require much maintenance because it is a closed loop.
Thermal Paste: Wasn't aware of the quality it came with. Had been using arctic silver 5 and it stated it could lower temps up to 12 C. As for the thermal paste remover, saw it in a video on newegg. Curiosity came to mind if it was any good. tongue.gif
Monitor: I love the samsung monitor though. smile.gif Never seen a dell U3011, but I heard the U3013 is coming out soon. Too late to return the samsung monitor anyways since I've had it for 3 months now. Besides, next monitor upgrade will probably be 4k resolution or 2k with 120hz.
Keyboard: Rarely play MMOs to be honest. But, I do like the overall look of the K90. Plus, it uses cherry mx red and with the dampers, it will be quiet. I'm aware not all keys are mechanical, but I've only owned a G19. So, I'm not familiar with what a "good" keyboard is.
Mouse: I currently use a razer mamba 2012. There are two things I dislike about it though. One, the software. Two, when holding down left and right click, then try to scroll, it has a certain force blocking the scroll. I was just curious if there was a better mouse than the mamba 2012.
Other Audio: Reason for the headset is I also use it for console gaming. Mostly a PC gamer, but I do have friends who play on console. Best thing for console is the setup I have now I believe. Also, if I picked up a sound card, wouldn't that lower the GPU PCIE slot from x16 to x8 since it is a 1155 board?
The rig in my sig is indeed what I have now. I am just handing it off down the family line and building myself a better one. smile.gif

Motherboard: Virtually all Z77 motherboards are stable and overclock well. Generally the only reason to get a more expensive one is some sort of special needs (3 graphics cards, that kind of thing). But, as you said, the value of money isn't very high for you compared to most OCN forumers.

GPU: *shrug*

PSU: I edited my PSU comment above smile.gif.

Radiator: I wonder, has anyone seen benchmarks on what's quieter, an H100 or a Noctua NH-D14/Thermalright Silver Arrow?. That would matter to me far more than thermal performance.

Thermal Paste: well, we covered that. No reason to get it.

Thermal Paste Remover: I ran respect experimentation. Though what paste do you expect to be removing?

Monitor: The Dell u3011 doesn't have the best response time for gaming. I wouldn't have any regrets. Though honestly, I dunno if the Samsung is better or not. I can understand not improving monitor setup if you're going for one of the 4k beasts sooner rather than later.

Other Audio: A lot of people add a clip-on mic or desk mic to their fancy headphones for gaming. *shrug* no biggie.

Sig rig is becoming a hand-me-down: This makes you purchasing a new comp a lot more sense (otherwise I would still say improve your monitor/GPU setup instead), particularly if there is actually some need for the hand-me-down machine where it is going, and it's not just an excuse for upgrading.
    
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Would you recommend a 2011 build instead then?
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No, absolutely not. LGA-2011 systems are slightly inferior for gaming as they are sandy bridge instead of ivy bridge. And since they're also much more expensive, there's pretty much zero reason to get them unless you make your living with heavily multi-threaded applications.
    
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