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Does you good to remember that the people who put out these articles are sometimes pushing a fanboy propaganda. At least here at OCN we are open about it. rolleyes.gif
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post #72 of 83
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Originally Posted by erunion View Post

You'll note that the 2013 WSA includes Q1 2014, so the termination fee for 2012 isn't the only thing AMD used to leverage this deal. So I'd say its a stretch to say the 2012 fee caused the 2013 savings.
Thanks for giving a source this time.
Edit: Plus, it seems AMD lost its ability to fab cpus/apus outside GF.

I am not saying the 2012 fee caused the savings in 2013, not even close to that. How in the world did you get that? That fee is just one of many parts of the entire contract....

I am talking about the deal in its entirety, the $65 Mil savings for this year, 2012, and the fact they were able to renegotiate their 2013 contract, and leave 2014 open.
    
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I'm seriously worried for AMD. I hope they manage to find some stable footing soon.

This.
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post #74 of 83
One day I hope I can stop losing money on the stocks I've owned for years. I should have sold them long ago, but I grew up in the AMD boom, and I bought in real early. But I've long since blown through my earnings trying to hold out for another success..Please AMD get your stuff right in 2013.
post #75 of 83
Looks to me like they finally realized crappy chip design is crappy.'Bout time, AMD! thumb.gif
Now let's see something worthwhile! biggrin.gif
 
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heh...I feel their stock price is dropping below $2 again...I bought 50 shares at $2.55. Heh, I am still sure they'll hit the $5+ mark again...but it might take longer than I thought it would.

lmao Wall Street loves suckers like you
post #77 of 83
They still gained. Feel bad for them, they need to pull through. Pray these guys get the Xbox 720 and/or PS4 contracts. Even better if Steam hops on-board too!
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I bought 50 shares at $2.55. Heh, I am still sure they'll hit the $5+ mark again...but it might take longer than I thought it would.

I was temped to buy when it was down to $1.86, looking back I kind of wish I did seeing that I'd still be up. For the moment that is.
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I was temped to buy when it was down to $1.86, looking back I kind of wish I did seeing that I'd still be up. For the moment that is.

Knowing when to exit is key. Doesn't matter how high the stock went if it falls again before you have sold.

If I had bought under $2, I'd be watching AMD very closely. Now might be a good time to take some profits off the table. Of course, that same principle applies to all holders of the stock doesn't matter what they bought at.

Imagine someone who had bought in at $5, but had sold at $3 then rebought at $1.90. They've still be underwater but their losses would be much less than if they had simply continued to hold the stock while it fell. (They've be sitting on about 70% of their initial invest versus 44% if they did nothing)
Edited by erunion - 12/11/12 at 4:34pm
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I read more about the deal....
Basically AMD paid GF to redo the contract they had with them that applies now and in the future.
In the long run this will be a HUGE savings for AMD, hundreds of millions. Apparently under the old contract AMD had to purchase a certain amount from GF as well as give GF kickbacks and other cash payments, as per the contract. Now under the new contract AMD won't have to purchase as much, and doesn't have to provide those additional "cash incentives" to GF, instead being able to pocket the money.
So, it sounds like, for now at least, someone at AMD did their homework and just knocked the ball out of the park by negotiating this. AMD is looking at saving HUNDREDS of millions over the next year or two with the new deal, and avoid having surplus stock that would further bite into their finances.

I suspect, AMD is moving more to TSMC and away from GloFo, call it a hunch. I think TSMC will get to 20nm before glofo, and they iirc are skipping a node. AMD desperately needs process tech to get competitive with Intel. they can't do ultra low power or servers unless they get to sub 20nm next year. I think TSMC or Samsung may be viable options for them in these regards though Samsung is a long shot.
http://semimd.com/blog/2012/10/16/tsmc-accelerates-finfet-roadmap/ <<<<<
AMD needs this tech to stay relevant
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