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Palm is the earliest I recall having gestures, and that's still well before the iPhone. Using a finger instead of a pen shouldn't make much of a difference; kind of like saying running with shoes on is a different process than running without shoes. Fundamentally the same thing.

What about the Newton? tongue.gif

Just have to be difficult : D
Edited by Shrak - 12/7/12 at 6:03pm
post #32 of 59
Looooooool

Good sorry had enough of apple dominating the market, stops other phone manufactures having a chance at making awesome phones to rival, I know its about business and about dominating a certain aspect of the market, but as a consumer I like competition means that everyone tries harder to win your sale, meaning as a end result we get better products at the end of it.

Screw you apple tongue.gif
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didn't apple pretty much originally invent touch gestures on a touch screen? i know there were others with finger touch screen interfaces, but i mean gestures specifically

Don't forget that many people who are credited with inventing something actually got the idea from someone else, most of the time it's the first person/company to implement something in a relevant way that gets all the attention.

Ideas are a dime a dozen, implementation is worth millions (hundreds of billions?).

Apple exists in its current form because they figured out the implementation part of a few cool ideas. To say that those ideas were entirely new would be a stretch, but they definitely deserve praise for their ability to make things relevant.
Edit: I guess you could attribute half their success to the advertising department, but they certainly are good at other things as well.
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didn't apple pretty much originally invent touch gestures on a touch screen? i know there were others with finger touch screen interfaces, but i mean gestures specifically

No, a company called "Fingerworks" in 1998 did.



While this wasn't on a touchscreen, they had a whole series of products and are generally credited with inventing "Gesturing". After that was done, tons of other touchscreen manufactures developed software to do basically the same thing, like Elographics, etc.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 12/7/12 at 6:11pm
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Looooooool
Good sorry had enough of apple dominating the market, stops other phone manufactures having a chance at making awesome phones to rival, I know its about business and about dominating a certain aspect of the market, but as a consumer I like competition means that everyone tries harder to win your sale, meaning as a end result we get better products at the end of it.
Screw you apple tongue.gif

This can also turn on other companies too in Apples favor as well thumb.gif

Next time Samsung or any other company for that matter want to patent a design or even an industry standard then they may not be able to ( as long as the patent office continues to stop giving out stupid patents ).
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does anyone know if it's easy to get a re-examination of a patent? i mean this might not mean anything and the injunction is just a procedural thing. i'm not getting my hopes up too high. it's like a judge granting a hearing to an appeal to a sentence...everyone gets an appeal....the hard bit is winning that appeal.
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I laughed at the guy claiming that removing patents is stifling innovation.
Apparently he is blind to the irony.
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I laughed at the guy claiming that removing patents is stifling innovation.
Apparently he is blind to the irony.

Patents only stifle copying.
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does anyone know if it's easy to get a re-examination of a patent? i mean this might not mean anything and the injunction is just a procedural thing. i'm not getting my hopes up too high. it's like a judge granting a hearing to an appeal to a sentence...everyone gets an appeal....the hard bit is winning that appeal.

It probably only happens when it becomes disputed in a judicial setting of appropriate weight. From what I've seen the patent office is just overwhelmed to the point of minimal effort per patent.
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Gonna be fun watching the Apple stock when the actual invalidation hits.

It's already happening biggrin.gif

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