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Man this stinks, I only joined like 5 months ago and already I'm starting to wonder if I should've...
     
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I read most of this, but just to be clear -- a scenario:

Martin receives sponsorship in that he gets to use and review something from manufacturer X. This is great, because this is his hobby and he does not have thousands of $$ to spend on parts. You then go and charge him $29 to share what he has to offer and in turn take ownership of what he posts. I could draw parallels to racketeering, but I digress. I understand that you want advertising revenue and you don't want manufacturers to find ways to bypass this, but the solution of making a member pay to post unbiased reviews is absurd. It would be understandable if they paid him to give a biased review, but I doubt this is really the case. There is more justification for showcase threads that really are partially advertising.

"Great review! Now you owe us $29 and all the rights to your intellectual property. Thanks again for adding to the community."

I can see how that makes people upset. I know that you really are just trying to foster a good community forum, but the legalese is a little thick and controlling.
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post #143 of 233
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Man this stinks, I only joined like 5 months ago and already I'm starting to wonder if I should've...

I'm sure there's a few who wish you wouldn't have right now...
post #144 of 233
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Originally Posted by ljason8eg View Post

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that's not legal and therefore, invalid.
So if I post photos here they become the exclusive property of OCN? Bullcrap. They're mine, I own the copyright, I just choose to share them here.

I agree.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alatar View Post

Lots of sites have similar notes for legal reasons,
for example this is in [H]'s ToS:
Same thing, just said in a different way.

And really I don't think it's the same. OCN is saying if I posted picture on OCN, OCN could watermark those pics I took and post them wherever, and say they belong to OCN.

Your quote says if I posted something you could repost it.
     
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I'm sure there's a few who wish you wouldn't have right now...

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post #147 of 233
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Originally Posted by Alatar View Post

Lots of sites have similar notes for legal reasons,
for example this is in [H]'s ToS:
Same thing, just said in a different way.
Still, that's no justification for it.
That policy is undignified by nature, and really shouldn't be dismissed just because it's common-place. It still is what it is.
If it contributes to situations like this one and that negatively impacts the site, then rightly so. People like this deserve to maintain the rights to their content; kudos to them for sharing at all. It's people like them who contribute to making places like this so great; shame on OCN for taking advantage of those people. I applaud them for not accepting an "everyone else is doing it" justification.
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post #148 of 233
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Man this stinks, I only joined like 5 months ago and already I'm starting to wonder if I should've...

You did the right thing,this site is good but there are a few thing to bear in mind.
A certain Xtreme site is even worse with mass deletions and no free speech regarding manu's and vendors....that doesnt happen here.

You can speak your mind (within reason),this thread is proof of that.
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Lots of sites have similar notes for legal reasons,
for example this is in [H]'s ToS:
Same thing, just said in a different way.

Yes but H doesn't enforce their ToS in the way that OCN does.
     
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Lots of sites have similar notes for legal reasons,
for example this is in [H]'s ToS:
Same thing, just said in a different way.

But that isn't saying that the content then belongs solely to [H] and cannot be posted on personal or competing forums/sites. They're just saying they reserve the right to do with the post as they wish, but don't own the content posted in it themselves.
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