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just subbing,
post #192 of 233
I miss him already!
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post #193 of 233
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Originally Posted by EpicAMDGamer View Post

But this is next to completely impossible. I make a file, give OCN a copy to look at, and it's theirs, and in that case, the original that I have might as well be theirs too.
Is this to say that the pictures of my SIG rigs are "property of OCN" and "the owner" of OCN can go around and post them on the internets and say it's theirs?

According to the ToS, yes. You can't even watermark anything you post here. I'm sorta clueless as to what the reasons behind any of this are. If someone could explain thoroughly, it would be great. Preferably a staff member that knows what's up and not people who make assumptions based on no facts at all, thanks.
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post #194 of 233
I think it must be about time to close this tread.

-Mistake made

-mistake fixed

let it go now im sure martin is a reasonable person and im sure the moderator is to i doubt either of them are over reacting or being malicious in anyway
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post #195 of 233
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Originally Posted by opt33 View Post

I see you have watercooling components, and do you know why they perform as well as they do? Because people like Martin was willing to donate thousands of hours of his time testing them independently, and giving feedback. Even killed his cpu and mobo testing them.
Without people willing to donate their time and test large samples of equipment, we are going to be left with nothing but blathering opinions, which gets old in time.
Take a specific instance. Stren tested ?12 blocks, many hours to test each block. Many blocks were sent to him by resellers.
So you want those shops who donated the equipment, even though not their blocks, to pay for an independent review in addition to supplying the blocks, or the tester who already donated an enormous amount of his time?
But glad it seems fair to you...so, why dont you spend a few thousand hours of your time testing, and pony up the fee, and only it post it on this one site...or does your sense of fairness change if it affects you directly?

I spent hundreds of hours helping plan some of the OCN events of the last year, including hundreds of dollars in travel to do so. I quite understand.

To the original point, short answer is yes. Why? Who stand to benefit from the reviews as well? Retailers.

"Big shout out to retailer X for providing the blocks for this review."

People will naturally think of that retailer right after reading the review, potentially resulting in sales.

That is advertising. Agree or not it remains the same. Do I agree with all of the fees? No, but is it legal and understandable why they are doing this, yes.

I also used to do reviews and internal testing some time back for manus so I also understand that side of things as well.
Edited by RussianJ - 12/10/12 at 4:17pm
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post #196 of 233
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

Martin is one of my heroes. thumb.gif
He has the patience to do hundreds of WC product reviews. His reviews help to shape the WC landscape.
Basically, he's the JonnyGURU of watercooling. tongue.gif

^This ..For him to be penalized is just wrong,IMO.
 
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post #197 of 233
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I think it must be about time to close this tread.
-Mistake made
-mistake fixed
let it go now im sure martin is a reasonable person and im sure the moderator is to i doubt either of them are over reacting or being malicious in anyway

Still doesn't change the ridiculous ToS though.
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post #198 of 233
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According to the ToS, yes. You can't even watermark anything you post here. I'm sorta clueless as to what the reasons behind any of this are. If someone could explain thoroughly, it would be great. Preferably a staff member that knows what's up and not people who make assumptions based on no facts at all, thanks.


You are really tempting me to delete all my pictures and reupload them with watermarks..............
     
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Since page 1 of this thread, I have not seen any post from the OP. I think he's gone. sadsmiley.gif
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Is this to say that the pictures of my SIG rigs are "property of OCN" and "the owner" of OCN can go around and post them on the internets and say it's theirs

He could post it on the internet on behalf of OCN as OCN's property because yes, the digital copy of the image you upload that is on OCN's server is OCN property. Why you would want to disagree with that I don't know. I don't mind images of my rig being property of OCN, they're just images...
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Carry on people, still the same OCN of last week and will be tomorrow.

Minus a few important members (unless things change and they decide to return).

Which I don't see possible because as it's been pointed out, maybe the deletion was a misunderstanding however as Stren said there are still 2 other rules they are breaking. If these users are proceeded to be allowed to post the reviews in more places then just OCN then maybe things will turn around. However it's the rule of content uploaded here having to stay here and only here is the hindering factor in this circumstance.
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