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First off, i have a concern and a overall plan killing problem that i need help with
Firstly, i have read and watched many tutorials about how to build a computer.
But my question is Is there ever a situation where it doesn't boot and there are no troubleshooting techniques that work?
Also, my plan killing problem is that my father wont let me build it
He says i have zero experience (which i do) and want me to buy a bunch of 100 dollar old pc's and take them apart (Retarded Beyond Belief)
My second question is, how do i convince my father to let me build it? How do i reassure him that no matter what, sooner or later no matter how many building mishaps (such as no boot) that sooner or later it will be built and i am not wasting money?
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First off, i have a concern and a overall plan killing problem that i need help with
Firstly, i have read and watched many tutorials about how to build a computer.
But my question is Is there ever a situation where it doesn't boot and there are no troubleshooting techniques that work?
Also, my plan killing problem is that my father wont let me build it
He says i have zero experience (which i do) and want me to buy a bunch of 100 dollar old pc's and take them apart (Retarded Beyond Belief)
My second question is, how do i convince my father to let me build it? How do i reassure him that no matter what, sooner or later no matter how many building mishaps (such as no boot) that sooner or later it will be built and i am not wasting money?

You might not be able to convince him.

Realistically, it's pretty difficult to screw up a computer build (for the most part). Physically damaging something is really when the problems occur, be it from dropping a screwdriver and scratching a component in the wrong spot, or breaking a connector. That's about the only situation you will run into where you'll actually have to get the component replaced/repaired.

That said, what's your budget? You might be able to show him that the new components cost almost as much as the old ones, and while learning something new, you'll end up with a very decent computer that will last a long time. Not to mention, you will be familiar with every component in the unit, since you bought them.

The wealth of knowledge on the internet makes it very easy to jump into something new, but also tends to make people a little over zealous when it comes to their project plans. Building a computer is basically like putting legos together however, so chances of that happening here are pretty low.

I suppose you could prove to your dad that you are capable of doing this by taking apart an existing computer and putting it back together. If it boots up when you are done, in my mind at least, you'd demonstrated your understanding.

If he does let you build one, just go slow and make sure you don't damage anything just because you got excited!
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You might not be able to convince him.
Realistically, it's pretty difficult to screw up a computer build (for the most part). Physically damaging something is really when the problems occur, be it from dropping a screwdriver and scratching a component in the wrong spot, or breaking a connector. That's about the only situation you will run into where you'll actually have to get the component replaced/repaired.
That said, what's your budget? You might be able to show him that the new components cost almost as much as the old ones, and while learning something new, you'll end up with a very decent computer that will last a long time. Not to mention, you will be familiar with every component in the unit, since you bought them.
The wealth of knowledge on the internet makes it very easy to jump into something new, but also tends to make people a little over zealous when it comes to their project plans. Building a computer is basically like putting legos together however, so chances of that happening here are pretty low.
I suppose you could prove to your dad that you are capable of doing this by taking apart an existing computer and putting it back together. If it boots up when you are done, in my mind at least, you'd demonstrated your understanding.
If he does let you build one, just go slow and make sure you don't damage anything just because you got excited!
My budget is very expensive for the most part 1300$
I have no computer to take apart, i only have one old thinkpad that barely boots by itself, i wouldn't dare open it.
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What if you and he were to build it together?
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What if you and he were to build it together?
Good thought but i pitched this already, he said no
"There is no step 1 to step 2 manual" is his reasoning
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My first computer build did not boot, and I had taken a years worth of computer classes in high school that went from building pcs to diagnosing and fixing problems. After I cleared out the cmos and bios by removing the battery for awhile and putting it back in, it booted.
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Good thought but i pitched this already, he said no
"There is no step 1 to step 2 manual" is his reasoning

Well, when you were born there was no step 1 to step 2 manual, but the hospital still let your parents take you home... thumb.gif
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I'm guessing you are under 18 and your father would be funding the build, so I would suggest get some kind of after school job, save for a couple months and build it and prove him wrong. And then when he wants your help with building one for himself you will have the upper hand.
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I'm guessing you are under 18 and your father would be funding the build, so I would suggest get some kind of after school job, save for a couple months and build it and prove him wrong. And then when he wants your help with building one for himself you will have the upper hand.
After school job is not gonna happen, for many reasons
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Well, when you were born there was no step 1 to step 2 manual, but the hospital still let your parents take you home... thumb.gif
Ok, that is simply gold, when the argument comes i am ******* using that
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I recommend talking with him and telling him that it would both be a learning and a good bonding experience between the two of ya. I've linked in 3 of the youtube videos from Newegg that breakdown the cradle to grave concept of building a computer, cool to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok

*edit spelling*
Edited by ssgtnubb - 12/7/12 at 5:20pm
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