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Alright - so my step father is a lawyer in Kansas and Missouri. He is doing very well business wise - so he is finally going to consider updating his computers. He currently has a 2006 Vostro 200 with a Core Duo in his office. It's lack luster and slow - even after upgrading it to 4GB of RAM and cleaning it. I also just managed to convince him to ditch his 2003 Dell Latitude and buy $300 ASUS laptop with a Dual Core Celeron, 6GB of DDR3 and USB 3.0 from Microcenter. His cousin that he shares a leased building with just purchase 2 x 27" iMac's for $2500 a piece and this made him consider purchasing a $1700 Lenovo all on one touch screen PC until I convinced him to let me build him a system.

I have to decide whether to go w/ a FM2 A10 5800K ($120) LGA 1155 Core i5 ($169) or FX-8320 ($159) as soon as possible. What do you guys think I should go with? I do understand the A10 truly compete's with Core i3 processors in single threaded applications - but considering he's been living with a Core Duo from 2006 - do you think he will NEED a Core i5 or 2nd gen FX? He WILL be keeping this system for at least 4 years. He is not the kind of person that feels the need to upgrade every year.

He will be using integrated graphics! He does not game. He's all business.


Also curious about HSA.


Everything will be purchased from Microcenter and more money per performance would be the best route.

http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.aspx

Also $40 off any motherboard w/ purchase of Core i5 3570K @ $169.99!
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well, if all he is doing is business work, i would save some money and get a trinity processor. throw in a nice SSD, 4GB (or more) of dual channel +1600mhz ram, a nice big HDD (WD, dont wanna lose any data), and put it all in a SFF case like a Cooler Master Elite 120.

if you want to really go safe storage wise, get 2 HDDs and put them in raid 1
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well, if all he is doing is business work, i would save some money and get a trinity processor. throw in a nice SSD, 4GB (or more) of dual channel +1600mhz ram, a nice big HDD (WD, dont wanna lose any data), and put it all in a SFF case like a Cooler Master Elite 120.
if you want to really go safe storage wise, get 2 HDDs and put them in raid 1

I'd agree with most of this, but I'd get an Ivy or Sandy Bridge CPU. I think the price:performance ratio is better with Intel, and I've also heard Sandys run cooler than most AMD chips. And if the CPU fan ever died, the CPU would be saved by downclocking, unlike AMD CPU's. I'd also get the hard drives RAIDed. I'm not so sure about the SSD though, if it ever failed on him, he might lose some things if he isn't careful, and if he doesn't need extreme speed, RAID 1 drives should be perfect, because they'll read 2x the speed of one drive anyway, only thing different from RAID 0 is that the write is only half speed, and you have data backups. :)

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Give him some sort of redundant backup as storage and then a decent sized SSD as the C: drive. Then configure all his user folders on the raid array and install his programs on the SSD. I agree with the trinity too. just make sure you throw in some good fast ram and a stable mobo. I say stable because if its still a budget build and youre using software raid, make sure to go with the top of the line chipset. For the case go with something classy like a lian li or fractal. pretty much exactly what the guy above me said, except a nice clean case (sorry not a fan of the cases with mesh everywhere)
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And if the CPU fan ever died, the CPU would be saved by downclocking, unlike AMD CPU's.

Not true, simply enable CnQ in BIOS for the trinity chip and not only will the CPU not die because of a catastrophic cooling failure, it wont be at its max clock at all times, and the fans and clock rates can step up based on load and thermal headroom.
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I'd agree with most of this, but I'd get an Ivy or Sandy Bridge CPU. I think the price:performance ratio is better with Intel, and I've also heard Sandys run cooler than most AMD chips. And if the CPU fan ever died, the CPU would be saved by downclocking, unlike AMD CPU's. I'd also get the hard drives RAIDed. I'm not so sure about the SSD though, if it ever failed on him, he might lose some things if he isn't careful, and if he doesn't need extreme speed, RAID 1 drives should be perfect, because they'll read 2x the speed of one drive anyway, only thing different from RAID 0 is that the write is only half speed, and you have data backups. smile.gif
Ever since Athlon 64, AMD chips have had heat protection on die. we arent in the 90s any more. as long as you have the feature on in the BIOS (on at standard settings), it will throttle and turn off.

As for the SSD, they dont fail unless you get a bad quality one. and it doesnt need to have a ton of room, just enough for the OS and a couple of highly used programs like internet

And raid 0 has double the read write speeds, not raid 1. im pretty sure raid 1 is slower than a single HDD due to it copying all of the info.
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Please make sure you refer to Microcenter prices as well.
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Ever since Athlon 64, AMD chips have had heat protection on die. we arent in the 90s any more. as long as you have the feature on in the BIOS (on at standard settings), it will throttle and turn off.
As for the SSD, they dont fail unless you get a bad quality one. and it doesnt need to have a ton of room, just enough for the OS and a couple of highly used programs like internet
And raid 0 has double the read write speeds, not raid 1. im pretty sure raid 1 is slower than a single HDD due to it copying all of the info.

RAID 1 has the same write speeds, but read speeds are the same as RAID 0. It splits the reading across both drivers, for quicker loading and reading of files.

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Forgot to mention he'll be using two monitors! Can Ivy Bridge (Z77/H77) or 790GX do this?
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Forgot to mention he'll be using two monitors! Can Ivy Bridge (Z77/H77) or 790GX do this?
trinity is more than capable of doing this. as for ivy/sandy, im not sure.
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