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My "gaming" Rosewill keyboard has no Linux drivers biggrin.gif
This is why gaming is so important for Linux.
Market share drives Innovation.
Games=Demand for Linux Drivers=$ for Linux driver development=Linux Drivers

Run Logitech then, my G110 and G15 work perfectly ( except for one key that's actually broke frown.gif ). And it's really the only reason I keep them around even though I got my Filco TKL now.
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another great thing about linux. it caches in ram so well most people don't notice that much difference between ssds and hdds after the first couple minutes, where as in windows I find myself banging my head against a table if the drives more then 4 years old
lol I know that feel. I'm kind of out of money, and my computer just hurts to use right now. I would try to mess with things in the BIOS, but it's not worth it for the 5+ minute boot time.
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another great thing about linux. it caches in ram so well most people don't notice that much difference between ssds and hdds after the first couple minutes, where as in windows I find myself banging my head against a table if the drives more then 4 years old
lol I know that feel. I'm kind of out of money, and my computer just hurts to use right now. I would try to mess with things in the BIOS, but it's not worth it for the 5+ minute boot time.

see with linux, systemd makes it crazy fast. still, on F17 did some work and shaved 15 seconds off a 35 second boot time down to 20 seconds, plus a 10 second bios time- this is on a WD Caviar SE (sata1, around 2005 I think) where as when I had win7RC (back before 7) I was ready to punch the monitor
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but the control is the project management. That makes it much easier to build a quality app. Not to mention speed of development. Do you have any idea how long it took to get these apps we use daily on Linux to the level they are? How long do we have to wait for an app to be updated if some other change broke it? You can Damn the Man and preach open source all you want, but at the end of the day even 1000 people working on an open source app around the world will not typically be able to compete with even a 20 person team that is directed and managed with structured communication (that isn't to say that project management can't fail either...but this isn't a new science any more and it is getting pretty good these days).
I am not saying they can't make a quality app...I've personally helped with open source projects, but the time and chaos involved with having multiple versions of the same app floating around, finding out you've been breaking other people code after the fact, and the lack of easy, structured communication make it very time consuming and difficult. That is just the price of free software though. If you buy a vended app on Linux there are seldom many differences than what you would find on a vended Windows app.

I understand the benefits of developing commercially. I am not even really all that adverse to paying for software. I suppose the heart of my distaste is not so much for the price or the closed source, it's mostly just the business practices that are rapidly spreading through the commercial market that are bothering me.
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lol I know that feel. I'm kind of out of money, and my computer just hurts to use right now. I would try to mess with things in the BIOS, but it's not worth it for the 5+ minute boot time.

I don't care what kind of hard drive you have or what OS you are using...not even when you had load the OS on each boot off of a 5.25 inch floppy disk was there a 5+ minute boot time (OK it might have been close to five minutes tongue.gif but we are are talking 20+ years ago). You have to have some serious issues going on that are likely hardware related if you are facing something like that. Don't even bring that into a Operating System discussion.
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lol I know that feel. I'm kind of out of money, and my computer just hurts to use right now. I would try to mess with things in the BIOS, but it's not worth it for the 5+ minute boot time.

I don't care what kind of hard drive you have or what OS you are using...not even when you had load the OS on each boot off of a 5.25 inch floppy disk was there a 5+ minute boot time (OK it might have been close to five minutes tongue.gif but we are are talking 20+ years ago). You have to have some serious issues going on that are likely hardware related if you are facing something like that. Don't even bring that into a Operating System discussion.

I think the 5min was half sarcasm
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I'm just glad we are getting more options in OS environments. Linux has always taken a backseat when compared to Windows and even MAC. I hope this will bring more attention to it.
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I'm just glad we are getting more options in OS environments. Linux has always taken a backseat when compared to Windows and even MAC. I hope this will bring more attention to it.

yeah, but the reason for the back seat was that there was no company wanting to put forth any backing for gaming on Linux...I've have been hoping for years that Steam would take this charge upon themselves. Unfortunately, open source can only go so far until you need some financial backing, or even just corporate organization, to get multiple organizations to work together to make something happen. Gaming requires the hardware providers, the software provider, and the operating system provider to work together on many levels. Steam is now providing a medium for the cooperation. As long as there is even a moderate interest in it from consumers...it should do well...I think it will at least.
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If they port over my library to Linux ill change over to native in a sec, ESP for folding benefits
     
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If they port over my library to Linux ill change over to native in a sec, ESP for folding benefits

That is unlikely to happen...the developers of all the games would have to be on board with it. However, there has been theories going around that Value could easily incorporate WINE into a Linux Steam app and help its development a bit. That might be able to do it...provided you'd be OK loosing a couple games here and there, because even with some extra help in the development I am sure there would still be issues with some games running in WINE.
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