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Originally Posted by atomicmew View Post

NO, that's wrong. 1.975v is the max voltage before they take IMMEDIATE damage. 1.575 is the max safe 24/7 voltage according to samsung, but these numbers are probably conservative, as samsung gains nothing by not erring on the side of caution.

You could probably go for 1.6-1.7 no problem, but you'd be insane to run these at 1.9+

i use mine for benching. and they take 1.8 and 1.875 with no problem they are still alive, even done 2.0 and 2.1 with no issues trust me when i say they go through hell

also there is nothing in the spec about IMMEDIATE anything. it says it must be able to take 1.975 before incurring ANY damage to the chip


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Originally Posted by Heuchler View Post

According to JEDEC, 1.575 volts should be considered the absolute maximum when memory stability is the foremost consideration, such as in servers or other mission-critical devices. In addition, JEDEC states that memory modules must withstand up to 1.975 volts before incurring permanent damage, although they are not required to function correctly at that level.

that is what you are talking about. to maintain jedec spec manufactures must keep stock volts @ 1.575 or less. says nothing about the end user
Edited by Mega Man - 5/5/13 at 6:49am
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post #752 of 1055
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also there is nothing in the spec about IMMEDIATE anything. it says it must be able to take 1.975 before incurring ANY damage to the chip

Straight from the samsung datasheet:
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Absolute maximum DC rating: 0.4 - 1.975

Stresses greater than those listed under “Absolute Maximum Ratings” may cause permanent damage to the device. This is a stress rating only and functional operation of the device at these or any other conditions above those indicated in the operational sections of thisspecification is not implied. Exposure to absolute maximum rating conditions for extended periods may affect reliability."

So it literally states that if you run it at 1.975 you may damage your ram (saying nothing about your IMC on your CPU either). So what you think running it just 0.1 V less 24/7 is okay?

Maybe it is because as I said the max voltage is probably conservative, but you are definitely taking a chance.
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Are the MV-3V4G3/US double-sided memory modules? Will it work with EK Ram Module?
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Originally Posted by atomicmew View Post

Quote:
also there is nothing in the spec about IMMEDIATE anything. it says it must be able to take 1.975 before incurring ANY damage to the chip

Straight from the samsung datasheet:
Quote:
Absolute maximum DC rating: 0.4 - 1.975

Stresses greater than those listed under “Absolute Maximum Ratings” may cause permanent damage to the device. This is a stress rating only and functional operation of the device at these or any other conditions above those indicated in the operational sections of thisspecification is not implied. Exposure to absolute maximum rating conditions for extended periods may affect reliability."

So it literally states that if you run it at 1.975 you may damage your ram (saying nothing about your IMC on your CPU either). So what you think running it just 0.1 V less 24/7 is okay?

Maybe it is because as I said the max voltage is probably conservative, but you are definitely taking a chance.

Lol. I have watched about 4 sticks get toasted by 1.85+ vdimm.

The max I run 24/7 for the last few months is 1.72v in my itx 5800k machine my wife uses.

They are the 2 sticks I have that will barely touch 2400mhz.

The dead ones refused so I killed them.
post #755 of 1055
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Lol. I have watched about 4 sticks get toasted by 1.85+ vdimm.

The max I run 24/7 for the last few months is 1.72v in my itx 5800k machine my wife uses.

They are the 2 sticks I have that will barely touch 2400mhz.

The dead ones refused so I killed them.

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Straight from the samsung datasheet:
So it literally states that if you run it at 1.975 you may damage your ram (saying nothing about your IMC on your CPU either). So what you think running it just 0.1 V less 24/7 is okay?

Maybe it is because as I said the max voltage is probably conservative, but you are definitely taking a chance.

higher volts degrade silicone much faster period.
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post #757 of 1055
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higher volts degrade silicone much faster period.
The difference in lifespan is not linear, but exponential. There is a qualitative difference between running at 1.5 and 1.9. It may "break" (i.e. acute damaged) not just "degrade."

However, there is a threshold voltage where an IC will last longer than it's usefulness, and I seriously doubt it is at 1.9. It is probably ~1.7 or less for sammies.
Edited by atomicmew - 5/7/13 at 8:29pm
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Is this the Samsung Green 30nm miracle memory?

Edited link
MV-3V4G3D?

Been looking for some to buy and this seem to be the cheapest. Very hard to find since I live in Australia but at $57 plus postage thats a steal.
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Is this the Samsung Green 30nm miracle memory?

http://www.pinnaclemicro.com/computer/parts.php?i=MV-3V4G&cf=2

MV-3V4G3D?

Been looking for some to buy and this seem to be the cheapest. Very hard to find since I live in Australia but at $57 plus postage thats a steal.

Yep, that appears to be the right one (MV-3V4G3D/US ).

If you order it, please let us know what week you receive (it will be just to the right of the "YK0" on the module's label and will look something like "1220", which represents year 2012, week 20.

If you really want some, I wouldn't tardy to order...now that you've posted where it is available. smile.gif
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