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People need to realize something: This console is 99% most likely to be running a linux distro, which means there is ZERO chance of 99% game currently found in the Steam library to actually work.

There is no, "I'll be able to play all my Steam games from my couch"...there is "I will be able to play games made for the Steam Box from my couch."

In other words, it's a console. This argument that "Uh, it's not a console! It's a PC" needs to end now.
Edited by Raven.7 - 12/10/12 at 7:47pm
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This argument that "Uh, it's not a console! It's a PC" needs to end now.

And until everything is finished, so does your argument. Everything is speculation until proven otherwise.
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People need to realize something: This console is 99% most likely to be running a linux distro, which means there is ZERO chance of 99% game currently found in the Steam library to actually work.
There is no, "I'll be able to play all my Steam games from my couch"...there is "I will be able to play games made for the Steam Box from my couch."
In other words, it's a console. This argument that "Uh, it's not a console! It's a PC" needs to end now.

Yes but unless they find a way to completely lock this thing down there will always be a way to modify the linux that is running on it. I'm betting that even if they do lock it down not too far in the future someone would figure out how to anyway. its not going to be a console at all if it does happen it would just be another prebuilt PC really.
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Barely any games run on Linux though, how exactly is this going to work?

Or will it be good for just source games and that's it. And what about my vast Steam Library of games that work only on Windows?


I don't get this Linux hype. I really did wish that I could just run all my games on Linux, just because I love how customizable Linux is, but alas I cannot.

This is only partially true. I have Steam currently running under linux with WINE. I've had few issues most of them being the initial setup. once it is properly done it runs just as good as it does under windows. Also with the Mac ports for the games that they have its really not far off from porting them to linux,.
Edited by Flaumig Shamane - 12/10/12 at 8:28pm
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it would just be another prebuilt PC really.

Which is what the article is suggesting;
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Newell said that he expects companies to start selling PCs designed for the living room next year — which Kotaku says could have Steam preloaded — and that Valve will create its own distinct package.

So Gabe thinks PC manufacturers will start getting more into the HTPC-like area, and once that happens he'll work out a deal to be able to have Steam preloaded on them.
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Yes but unless they find a way to completely lock this thing down there will always be a way to modify the linux that is running on it. I'm betting that even if they do lock it down not too far in the future someone would figure out how to anyway. its not going to be a console at all if it does happen it would just be another prebuilt PC really.
This is only partially true. I have Steam currently running under linux with WINE. I've had few issues most of them being the initial setup. once it is properly done it runs just as good as it does under windows. Also with the Mac ports for the games that they have its really not far off from porting them to linux,.

If they use off-the-shelf PC hardware then even if they would "lock it down" all it would take - at worst case - is cracking the case open, taking the HDD or SSD inside and formatting/putting some other op system on it on another PC. If they dont find a way to remove access to BIOS/UEFI then it will not be even that hard as you could just boot from the USB stick if the "original" op sys is too confining.

Then again, it's not targeted at the people who know what bios is or how to do a linux live cd on a usb stick.
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If they use off-the-shelf PC hardware then even if they would "lock it down" all it would take - at worst case - is cracking the case open, taking the HDD or SSD inside and formatting/putting some other op system on it on another PC. If they dont find a way to remove access to BIOS/UEFI then it will not be even that hard as you could just boot from the USB stick if the "original" op sys is too confining.
Then again, it's not targeted at the people who know what bios is or how to do a linux live cd on a usb stick.

lol this is true. forgot about that even though I install new distros on a regular bases. either way I think it will be interesting to see
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Chances are:

- System will be fully moddable.
- OS won't be locked down, and most likely be preloaded and optimized for gaming.
- "Controlled environment" = Set hardware/OS standard for Valve to base off its Linux venture.

But yeah, right now it's all a guessing game until Valve says something.
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"Controlled environment" = Set hardware/OS standard for Valve to base off its Linux venture.
But yeah, right now it's all a guessing game until Valve says something.

That is the #1 trait of a gaming console, yet people keep saying it's not a console....stop contradicting yourselves and accept the fact that VALVe is jumping ship.
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"Controlled environment" = Set hardware/OS standard for Valve to base off its Linux venture.
But yeah, right now it's all a guessing game until Valve says something.

That is the #1 trait of a gaming console, yet people keep saying it's not a console....stop contradicting yourselves and accept the fact that VALVe is jumping ship.



Yeah. It's going to be as much of a console as Ouya is going to be. What's your point?

I'm not contradicting anything. And going by your logic, I guess MS new venture into tablets/mobile PCs can be called handheld consoles coz they can haz MS Store & makez the warez too :/

/tangent
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Yeah. It's going to be as much of a console as Ouya is going to be. What's your point?

That it's a console. People need to stop calling it a "PC".

(Not saying you specifically)
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