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Yeah. It's going to be as much of a console as Ouya is going to be. What's your point?

That it's a console. People need to stop calling it a "PC".

(Not saying you specifically)

Again, this is probably going to be as much of a console as Ouya is going to be. i.e. sort of but not really.
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DO NOT WANT.

Steam, and all other forms of intrusive, unneeded DRM should not be drooled over or wanted, it should be burned with fire. I'm one of those people that can't see much of a difference between say, Valve, and say, Ubi. At least Ubi releases games (joke drum tune).

I should prolly clarify this for those rabid Steam fans, but I won't. Steam is just terribad and not needed. Burn it with fire like all other bloatware and spyware, which is what it is essentially.
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DO NOT WANT.

Steam, and all other forms of intrusive, unneeded DRM should not be drooled over or wanted, it should be burned with fire. I'm one of those people that can't see much of a difference between say, Valve, and say, Ubi. At least Ubi releases games (joke drum tune).

I should prolly clarify this for those rabid Steam fans, but I won't. Steam is just terribad and not needed. Burn it with fire like all other bloatware and spyware, which is what it is essentially.

Cool story bro.

Enjoy buying a disc for every $2-$15 indie game out now and coming out in future.
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DO NOT WANT.
Steam, and all other forms of intrusive, unneeded DRM should not be drooled over or wanted, it should be burned with fire. I'm one of those people that can't see much of a difference between say, Valve, and say, Ubi. At least Ubi releases games (joke drum tune).
I should prolly clarify this for those rabid Steam fans, but I won't. Steam is just terribad and not needed. Burn it with fire like all other bloatware and spyware, which is what it is essentially.

Well... I'm not a big fan of Steam but it's not an evil empire that you make it out to be. Quite honestly I love the idea of it. It's a library of Video Games, pretty friggin awesome.
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Cool story bro.
Enjoy buying a disc for every $2-$15 indie game out now and coming out in future.

at least i will own it biggrin.gif
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Cool story bro.
Enjoy buying a disc for every $2-$15 indie game out now and coming out in future.

at least i will own it biggrin.gif

Completely missed what I implied, but I expected this response nonetheless.
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DO NOT WANT.
Steam, and all other forms of intrusive, unneeded DRM should not be drooled over or wanted, it should be burned with fire. I'm one of those people that can't see much of a difference between say, Valve, and say, Ubi. At least Ubi releases games (joke drum tune).
I should prolly clarify this for those rabid Steam fans, but I won't. Steam is just terribad and not needed. Burn it with fire like all other bloatware and spyware, which is what it is essentially.

Steam is fine as a distribution service, but there is absolutely no reason in HELL VALVe should be involved making consoles.
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yfw the only thing that comes out this entire ordeal is Valve adding "Steambox/Linux compatible" tags to supported games ala the new controller tags:

I'm going to need new sides lachen.gif
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Valve should release HL3 which is what the fans really want, not this crap.
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1) They get all the revenue from small apps and games that the windows app store would.

2) They get a better "console" that can do more and possibly give more for developers.

-better hardware
-better software upgrades
-ect...

3) They get to customize the OS to their look and feel, possibly removing ads and banners from the "home" screen.

I think this has more reasons than PR and windows 8, I think he just sees this as a good time to push that idea while capitalizing on certain things. Now if something like, oh the oculus rift comes out it can be used. Or he can steal ideas from other companies, like lets say the xbox and it's kinnect. What's that other device that can "read your thoughts"? Either way, I think my point is made. Since it is linux, it gets all the advantages that everyone pushes. Think of what a steambox with a GTX680 could do? I'm going to use Nvidia as an example because I'm willing to bet Valve helped them in driver work. Which means they probably have a very close dev tie, meaning things can be catered to that card extremely well. We all know what happens if game developers cater to a hardware dev. I digress, either way this has the ability to be a very amazing ordeal for everyone.

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Steam is fine as a distribution service, but there is absolutely no reason in HELL VALVe should be involved making consoles.

Most console designers aren't really that good at anti-cheat software. Valve fortunately is and they have a distribution service. You can go get a jtaged xbox or ps3 and put aimbots/wallhacks right on it. I've seen them, many people have fought against them. Currently both parties do the work with encrypted systems and banking that the hardware won't get hacked or the key isn't found. Two pieces that once circumvented give the user the entire system. Valve doesn't need that, they probably will encrypt everything as I'm sure it's good. The point is, Valve has dealt with cheaters more often than either console developer currently has. This includes stuff like people getting cheap levels (10th prestige real quick like), or any modifications as all those save "hacks" will probably get you banned. Best part about Valve is, the ban is delayed to at least 2 weeks so you don't know what gets you banned unless you use only one hack.

Honestly they would do a fine job making a console, essentially Steam everything you would need.
Edited by mushroomboy - 12/11/12 at 12:48am
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