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Called it.
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Maybe Microsoft refused to make a deal with them to provide the OS, and now they're mad?

It's too expensive for them to license something like this.

But the thing is that this Steam box doesn't do the main thing that consoles are great for, which is uniform system specs that makes it easy for developers code for. If a steambox is openable/customizable (standard cpu/memory/mobo combination) it's a fail since it makes things less uniform. And if steam doesn't wait a long time between iterations of the hardware, it's also going to be a fail. Steam also lacks something that all console nowadays push which is media and social integration. They also lack the widespread controller/big picture mode support for most of the steam library to be compatible with. Even some of Valve's own games doesn't support a controller very well.

And no, a standard Linux interface isn't going to solve that problem since it's supposed to be a 10 ft experience, if you have to see any sort of a desktop, it's no longer a console and has the effectiveness of the console. I think Steam's trying to develop an ecosystem, but it's never going to grow as much as a casual console (Wii, etc.) due to the specific experience a pc gamer wants (mouse/keyboard, etc.)
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This is sad. OCN trashes consoles at nearly every turn yet hypocritically embrace a Steam console with arms wide open rolleyes.gif

This is bad for PC not good. How can anyone not see this? mad.gif
     
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I think this is a great idea, but it HAS to be priced correctly. I think they may be overestimating the demand for any console over $600 or so. MS and Sony are the kings in the $300 console market. This needs to offer something of extraordinary value above what comes in MS and Sony's $300 offerings.

So the question becomes this: how much added value does the SteamBox platform provide in the eyes of the consumer? As PC gamers, we know the benefits: better graphics, more flexibility in general, etc.

At anything over about 2.25x the price of MS and Sony's next offerings, I think this will struggle to create demand. I think 1.75-2x is the where it could really take some market share from MS and Sony.
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Makes sense. Throw all sorts of crap on Windows to have an excuse to go on Linux.
Maybe Microsoft refused to make a deal with them to provide the OS, and now they're mad?

But Steam works perfectly fine on Windows 8, though.

I do not see this "Steam Box" taking off in any way. No way it achieves the cohesive experience of a PS3 or 360, not to mention it will be a console that is limited to the small selection of PC games, now apparently just Linux games... confused.gif For that reason, console gamers won't like it.

PC gamers also won't like it as it takes the fun out of building and upgrading your PC which so many PC games are in to.

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I think this is a great idea, but it HAS to be priced correctly. I think they may be overestimating the demand for any console over $600 or so. ... As PC gamers, we know the benefits: better graphics, more flexibility in general, etc..

Good luck with "better" PC graphics on a ~<$600 "console" (PC)....
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I would be interested if this was a HTPC like PC, able to play simple games and play media, wile letting me stream more resource intensive games from my PC (just like onlive but local).
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Honestly I believe Windows 8 is just a PR scape goat to help Linux adoption so they can build their console.
It probably is, but I'm not complaining; it's an excuse to not have to deal with Windows anymore.
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This is sad. OCN trashes consoles at nearly every turn yet hypocritically embrace a Steam console with arms wide open rolleyes.gif
This is bad for PC not good. How can anyone not see this? mad.gif

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This is sad. OCN trashes consoles at nearly every turn yet hypocritically embrace a Steam console with arms wide open rolleyes.gif
This is bad for PC not good. How can anyone not see this? mad.gif

Because it's good for the users who just want to play video games with no hastle? How can you not see this?
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Will the steam console be able to play all pc games? Or just certain titles made specifically for their os?
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post #30 of 260
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Honestly I believe Windows 8 is just a PR scape goat to help Linux adoption so they can build their console.

Probably.
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This is sad. OCN trashes consoles at nearly every turn yet hypocritically embrace a Steam console with arms wide open rolleyes.gif

This is bad for PC not good. How can anyone not see this? mad.gif

It's funny, actually.

It's also actually good for PC gaming, how is it bad? It pretty much makes a PC Console, I doubt many developers would make their game just for the specs of the latest Steam box...If anything, it'd get an optimized build of the game locked on medium graphical settings or something, it'd increase Linux's gaming marketshare (As it'd be based on Linux no doubt) and give us PC versions of some games that developers otherwise wouldn't port due to the flexibility of a PC and the amount of parts out there, or just giving us the option to use a controller on certain games. (eg. Valve pays Mojang to port Minecraft to the Steam Box, so Mojang adds an option to use a controller that is enabled by default on Steam Box systems and enabled in options for other people if they want it)

If Valve put a lot of money into this it could succeed, notice how they got nVidia to make their Linux drivers a lot better for Steam on Linux? I have no doubt that they'll be doing the same to some AAA companies (And some of the more famous indie developers) to get game support, best of all because it's going to definitely be PC based it won't take much porting to do.
Besides, Steam is getting into more than just gaming...A Steam Box with a LP CPU and GPU would be a great way to rent and stream movies ala Android store, although like virtually every good steaming service I bet it'll be US only. rolleyes.gif
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