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Air cooling ability has way more to do with fans being used than the case in question. Buy nice fans, then you have plenty of cooling.

We're also well past the days of 125W TDP and 300W+ videocards. PC's don't need nearly the amount of airflow as they do when cases like the FT02 and HAF were designed.

The one thing to keep in mind with the FT02 is that the 90 degree layout doesn't work with a lot of heatpipe cooled GPUs (aka non reference). I think this is a big reason why Silverstone is moving away from it in the FT04 design.
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Originally Posted by Michalius View Post

Air cooling ability has way more to do with fans being used than the case in question. Buy nice fans, then you have plenty of cooling.
We're also well past the days of 125W TDP and 300W+ videocards. PC's don't need nearly the amount of airflow as they do when cases like the FT02 and HAF were designed.
The one thing to keep in mind with the FT02 is that the 90 degree layout doesn't work with a lot of heatpipe cooled GPUs (aka non reference). I think this is a big reason why Silverstone is moving away from it in the FT04 design.

yes the "weakness" in the FT02 design is in the GPU selection. you must select a GPU with a cooler that is compatible with the vertical mounting orientation or it will perform worse then a conventional design.

with that said, there are choices in every modern GPU design that offer compatible GPU coolers to the FT02. whether you decide to go AMD or nvidia, there is a GPU with the right cooler that will work with FT02. it may not be the brand you normally buy, but when it comes to GPU, the chip matters more then the brand sticker.

as far as the 125w + 300w TDP.... all i can say is this is OCN biggrin.gif there will always be people here pushing the thermal and acoustical limits of their machine biggrin.gif I don't think there is such thing as "too much cooling" for the OCN community biggrin.gif people will point out the efficiency and effectiveness of cooling, but i don't think people would comment on "too much cooling" except to give a thumb.gifbiggrin.gif
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Brand does matter when the cards that work with the design are reference cards that are twice as loud as their non-reference variants. It is not a trivial issue.
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Brand does matter when the cards that work with the design are reference cards that are twice as loud as their non-reference variants. It is not a trivial issue.

you do NOT have to buy reference cards for it to work with FT02. for example, my sapphire HD7970 with the dual-X cooler works perfectly fine with the FT02 and it's as silent as any other card you can find on the market (aside from the occasional coil whine that can get annoying) heatpipe coolers works fine with FT02 as long as you know what to look for. fin/heatpipe orientation is the primary determining factor as to if the card will work with a vertical mount. i've already explained this relationship in many other threads but i suppose i need to just make 1 thread that i refer back to on a regular basis for anyone interested in the vertical mount GPU selection.
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you do NOT have to buy reference cards for it to work with FT02. for example, my sapphire HD7970 with the dual-X cooler works perfectly fine with the FT02 and it's as silent as any other card you can find on the market (aside from the occasional coil whine that can get annoying) heatpipe coolers works fine with FT02 as long as you know what to look for. fin/heatpipe orientation is the primary determining factor as to if the card will work with a vertical mount. i've already explained this relationship in many other threads but i suppose i need to just make 1 thread that i refer back to on a regular basis for anyone interested in the vertical mount GPU selection.

Hmm, this is something I didn't think I needed to take into account. So you are saying only GPUs with specific designs can fit in the FT02? I was either thinking about getting the GTX 680 or Radeon 7970 and possibly re-using the FT02 as a case. But if you have any other case recommendations that can match the FT02 in looks and build, I'm all ears.
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Hmm, this is something I didn't think I needed to take into account. So you are saying only GPUs with specific designs can fit in the FT02? I was either thinking about getting the GTX 680 or Radeon 7970 and possibly re-using the FT02 as a case. But if you have any other case recommendations that can match the FT02 in looks and build, I'm all ears.

here is an old thread where i explained alittle on how to select the proper GPU cooler for the vertical orientation mount such as FT02.
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Needing a GPU buying chart to complicate the purchasing process seems really silly.

Get a Lian Li, call it good.
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Needing a GPU buying chart to complicate the purchasing process seems really silly.
Get a Lian Li, call it good.

some people care more about their rig then others biggrin.gif if it takes me a few minutes more to pick out a GPU for something that will perform better and be quieter for the next 5 years, i don't see that as a big problem.

most people fail to see the superiority of the FT02 case because they are unable to see things in a different angle. and as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words, so i'll just post this pic i stole from [H]



this puts the RV02 (same subframe as the FT02) in an orientation that most people are familiar with. those 3 fans you see in the "front" of the machine are 180mm fans. not the wimpy 120mm or 140mm fans that people are used to seeing... also notice the distance between the intake fans and where the heat sources are. they are MUCH closer then conventional case design so they offer MUCH better cooling (not to mention there is nothing blocking the cool air prior to reaching the heat sources) most conventional design such as lian li, the cooling air is blocked by HDD cage and have to make a few turns before it even reach the heat source.

i'm not a lian li hater, i've owned a lian li for over 10 years. but they have not improved their airflow design like silvestone has....
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We're not in Fermi land anymore.
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