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Wondering about what you guys think about design/cooling and upgradeability of these laptop lines?
Also are the mobile cpu variants overclockable?

First laptop im getting. Dont know anything about laptops so please help out. Looking at a max budget of $2500.
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Order a Sager from XoticPC.com if you want a Clevo laptop. The iBuyPower laptops are just Clevo machines being resold under a different title.

Clevo are second in cooling capabilities with Alienware being the best in this region. As for the CPUs, the XM models are the only ones that are capable of being overclocked. However, each CPU will naturally overclock all the cores to a certain degree depending on the load of each core. The overclocking the CPU can do to itself is impressive really. The stock CPU is capable of pushing 3.1GHz on all four cores, which makes it faster than a stock i5-2500k. tongue.gif

If you need an OS, that can be easily factored into this build on the site I linked to. It's the Sager NP9170 to be precise.

And here's the build that I tossed up with the OS included:
Sager NP9170 (Click to show)
12 DAYS of CHRISTMAS Giveaway – Automatically registered with any purchase! Make sure to ‘Like’ XOTIC PC on Facebook to complete your contest entry!!!
- FREE!! Continental (U.S. Lower 48 - UPS Ground Only) Ground Shipping on ALL Sager Laptops (Enter Coupon Code: "SAGERFREESHIP" during order process)
- SAGER Holiday Sale!!! - $100 OFF When you spend $1350.00* or more! (*excludes non-sager parts, accessories, shipping, & taxes) - [NP9150, NP9170, & NP9370 Only]
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen w/ 72% NTSC Color Gamut (1920x1080)
(Will add 4-7 business days to build time)
(SKU - X1R552)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3740QM (2.7GHz - 3.7GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU - S2R202)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- nVidia GeForce GTX 680M 4,096MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology [User Upgradeable] (SKU - S3R406)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 16GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (4 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4T822P)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- 128GB Crucial M4 mSATA SSD - Preconfigured as an OS Drive ( Operating System – Drive C: )
- 750GB 7200RPM [Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache] (SKU - S5R306)
- 750GB 7200RPM [Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache] (SKU - S5R305)
- Raid 0 Stripe Enabled (Requires 2 or 3 Hard Drives. Combines Hard Drives for performance) (Sager)
- 6x Blu-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive - Special! (SKU - S7P557)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- No Back Up Software
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- FREE - Sager - Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1202 + Bluetooth 4.0 (Dual Band) (SKU – S8T008)
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- Standard Sager/Clevo Non Chiclet Backlit Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- ~Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit (64&32-Bit CD Included (Supports up to 16GB of RAM)) + MS Office Starter 2010 -[ Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for $14.99 (Directly through Microsoft) ]
- No Thanks, I will not be upgrading to Windows 8 Professional [Directly through Microsoft]
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs
(SKU - X9R009)
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- Standard Production Time
- No Xotic PC Gear

Total costs were right at your budget. Little less actually...
     
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post #3 of 14
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Originally Posted by Imglidinhere View Post

Order a Sager from XoticPC.com if you want a Clevo laptop. The iBuyPower laptops are just Clevo machines being resold under a different title.
Clevo are second in cooling capabilities with Alienware being the best in this region. As for the CPUs, the XM models are the only ones that are capable of being overclocked. However, each CPU will naturally overclock all the cores to a certain degree depending on the load of each core. The overclocking the CPU can do to itself is impressive really. The stock CPU is capable of pushing 3.1GHz on all four cores, which makes it faster than a stock i5-2500k. tongue.gif
If you need an OS, that can be easily factored into this build on the site I linked to. It's the Sager NP9170 to be precise.
And here's the build that I tossed up with the OS included: Sager NP9170 (Click to show)
12 DAYS of CHRISTMAS Giveaway – Automatically registered with any purchase! Make sure to ‘Like’ XOTIC PC on Facebook to complete your contest entry!!!
- FREE!! Continental (U.S. Lower 48 - UPS Ground Only) Ground Shipping on ALL Sager Laptops (Enter Coupon Code: "SAGERFREESHIP" during order process)
- SAGER Holiday Sale!!! - $100 OFF When you spend $1350.00* or more! (*excludes non-sager parts, accessories, shipping, & taxes) - [NP9150, NP9170, & NP9370 Only]
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen w/ 72% NTSC Color Gamut (1920x1080)
(Will add 4-7 business days to build time)
(SKU - X1R552)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3740QM (2.7GHz - 3.7GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU - S2R202)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- nVidia GeForce GTX 680M 4,096MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology [User Upgradeable] (SKU - S3R406)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 16GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (4 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4T822P)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- 128GB Crucial M4 mSATA SSD - Preconfigured as an OS Drive ( Operating System – Drive C: )
- 750GB 7200RPM [Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache] (SKU - S5R306)
- 750GB 7200RPM [Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache] (SKU - S5R305)
- Raid 0 Stripe Enabled (Requires 2 or 3 Hard Drives. Combines Hard Drives for performance) (Sager)
- 6x Blu-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive - Special! (SKU - S7P557)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- No Back Up Software
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- FREE - Sager - Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1202 + Bluetooth 4.0 (Dual Band) (SKU – S8T008)
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- Standard Sager/Clevo Non Chiclet Backlit Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- ~Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit (64&32-Bit CD Included (Supports up to 16GB of RAM)) + MS Office Starter 2010 -[ Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for $14.99 (Directly through Microsoft) ]
- No Thanks, I will not be upgrading to Windows 8 Professional [Directly through Microsoft]
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs
(SKU - X9R009)
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- Standard Production Time
- No Xotic PC Gear
Total costs were right at your budget. Little less actually...

Awesome info thanks. How easy would it be to upgrade in the future with the clevo laptops? Would it be better to go single gtx680mx or maybe sli 670-675??
I am aware of sli/crossfire problems and im not worried about that. Just want max settings in bf3 guild wars 2.
Edited by Da1Nonly - 12/9/12 at 7:47pm
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post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by Da1Nonly View Post

Awesome info thanks. How easy would it be to upgrade in the future with the clevo laptops? Would it be better to go single gtx680mx or maybe sli 670-675??

Clevo machines are very easy to upgrade. Though the only machine in the Clevo line that supports dual GPUs is the NP9370, which totes a hefty price tag. However, laden with SLI GTX 670MXs...well...that's a machine that I've got my eyes set dead on for when I decide to upgrade from this one. SLI 670MXs will decimate a single 680M if that matters.

You can't really go wrong with a single 680M though, the single card advantage still remains. I'd go for a 680M if I had the cash. At stock settings, it's about on par with a GTX 570. blinksmiley.gif
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So for performance i should go sli gtx670m-675mx. Is it possible to overclock mobile gpu's?
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So for performance i should go sli gtx670m-675mx. Is it possible to overclock mobile gpu's?

I don't think you can go wrong with a single GTX 680M. If you would ever want to upgrade the GPU in the laptop if you had SLi it would cost a lot more. It might last longer.

Another reason i would stick with the GTX 680M is the memory bandwidth on the GTX 670MX is 67Gbps whereas for the GTX 680M its 115Gbps so it will handle 1080p with AA much much better than the SLi setup because the bandwidth is per card it doesn't just double thus it might struggle if you ever want AA.
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So for performance i should go sli gtx670m-675mx. Is it possible to overclock mobile gpu's?

You can't SLI the 675MX from what I know. So you'd be stuck with SLI 670MX...which isn't a bad option, it's just two lower powered GPUs vs one really powerful one. The 670MX is as fast as a GTX 460 and, as stated above, the 680M is as fast as a 570. So you'd literally be comparing SLI GTX 460s vs a single GTX 570.

I would only go for the SLI option if you're really wanting the most you can get for your money if you're on a budget that's fairly limiting. But with a budget of $2,500 there's hardly a reason to stick just to that option. The 680M has higher potential than the 670MXs and can actually re-acquire it's stock GTX 670 status if overclocked.

But yeah, overclocking a laptop GPU is the same as with a desktop. People have been doing that for well over a decade. tongue.gif
     
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You can't SLI the 675MX from what I know. So you'd be stuck with SLI 670MX...which isn't a bad option, it's just two lower powered GPUs vs one really powerful one. The 670MX is as fast as a GTX 460 and, as stated above, the 680M is as fast as a 570. So you'd literally be comparing SLI GTX 460s vs a single GTX 570.
I would only go for the SLI option if you're really wanting the most you can get for your money if you're on a budget that's fairly limiting. But with a budget of $2,500 there's hardly a reason to stick just to that option. The 680M has higher potential than the 670MXs and can actually re-acquire it's stock GTX 670 status if overclocked.
But yeah, overclocking a laptop GPU is the same as with a desktop. People have been doing that for well over a decade. tongue.gif

I havent found any reviews or threads for the gtx680mx. Do you have any? Regarding reviews or overclockability. I am placing my order tonight and set on getting the 680.
Also does the cpu really make a big difference? Im deciding between the 3740qm And the 3840qm. Its a $300+ difference between the two.
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I would just sit with the 3740QM because the processor already dominates anything that's on the market for that price range. It's about the equivalent of having a 3770 in your laptop. tongue.gif

As for the 680MX, it's not planned for release until after the new year rolls around and even then it's still unclear on about when it's real release is. wackosmiley.gif

But yeah, the 680M with the 3740QM is definitely on my list of things to snag. biggrin.gif
     
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I would just sit with the 3740QM because the processor already dominates anything that's on the market for that price range. It's about the equivalent of having a 3770 in your laptop. tongue.gif
As for the 680MX, it's not planned for release until after the new year rolls around and even then it's still unclear on about when it's real release is. wackosmiley.gif
But yeah, the 680M with the 3740QM is definitely on my list of things to snag. biggrin.gif

Ok got it regarding that cpu, what about the 3630qm? Can i stick with that cpu?
Gpu wise, that must be why shipping date is after the 1st of january for any laptop with the gtx680mx.
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