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I planning on doing my first watercooling setup in the near future but I want to make sure I have everything planned out first and make sure it is exactly what I want before I go ahead and buy everything. I am planning on cooling my intel core i5 2500k and my reference gtx 560 (if that is possible)
I am going to have a Shinobi XL so I think I want to have a 360 rad in the top and 240 rad in the front but I am unsure of most other things such as what cpu block or gpu block to get and other things like the pump and the reservoir (I do not want a bay reservoir though, I have only heard bad things about them).
 
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I planning on doing my first watercooling setup in the near future but I want to make sure I have everything planned out first and make sure it is exactly what I want before I go ahead and buy everything. I am planning on cooling my intel core i5 2500k and my reference gtx 560 (if that is possible)
I am going to have a Shinobi XL so I think I want to have a 360 rad in the top and 240 rad in the front but I am unsure of most other things such as what cpu block or gpu block to get and other things like the pump and the reservoir (I do not want a bay reservoir though, I have only heard bad things about them).


Hi there, give me a few minutes and I'll get a little list together and some beginners information for you. You also might want to check out some of the information in this thread (that has a lot of stickies to help get you started) in the meantime: Water Cooling Stickies. I will also check into reference GTX 560 GPU waterblock availability for you too. Check back shortly. thumb.gif
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Thank you very much. I will look at the stickies now
 
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Nothing wrong with bay Reservoirs - unless you get one with an in-built pump. Ones that can accommodate a D5 are ideal for my needs provided the case i'm working on has enough bays for one and other devices. Having to find a spot for a large D5 if it's not in a res is just annoying.

Besides, a decent bay res is a good way to let people know your rig is special tongue.gif.

Be careful with any rotary fittings though. Keep with bitspower or other well known reputable brands for any kind of fitting (Esp rotary) for peace of mind. You don't wanna be buying a fitting with rubbish seals only to have it leak on you later down the road.

Go for compression fittings if you want a nice clean look, or, if you really want security, go with barbs and jubilee clips. Don't settle for anything else but jubilee clips. Things like cable ties or those plastic clips just don't cut it in my book, and don't trust anyone who suggests you run with no clips on it at all.
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OK, so water cooling isn't really all that complicated on a basic level. What you are trying to accomplish will just take a little patience and some dedication to getting it done. That being said, lets delve into a list I put together for you. You said that you wanted a 360mm rad in the top and a 240mm rad in the front, so that is what I built this setup around. A lot of things in here can be swapped around for another brand, given that they still adhere to your budget, space constraints, etc. Without further ado, here is the list!


CPU Waterblock: XSPC Raystorm CPU Waterblock
GPU Waterblock: Heatkiller X3 GTX 560 "Hole Edition" Reference Waterblock
Radiator 1: Alphacool NexXxos ST30 360mm Radiator
Radiator 2: Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 240mm Radiator
Reservoir: Bitspower 250mm Tube Reservoir With Pump Mount
Pump: Swiftech MCP655-B Pump


OK, now that we have our basic component list (minus tubing and fittings, which I will go over), lets take a look at the other things you need to get started. For tubing you can get whatever you want (for clear tubing I would recommend Durelene, and for colored tubing, I don't have any particular recommendations because I don't use colored tubing), and for fittings you need to decide what size, and what style that you want (Compression or Barb). Just remember for fittings, in this setup I have listed, you will need at the MINIMUM (meaning excluding 45 degree, 90 degree, quick disconnects, mini valves, etc etc) 10 fittings of your choice (basically it is 2 per component-an inlet and an outlet...however, in this case, the reservoir and pump connect together so they act as 1 component for this setup's purposes...if you went a route where they did not connect together, you would need at least 2 more fittings to compensate). I would recommend Bitspower compression fittings personally, but it is completely up to you which route you take on fittings. Some people also swear by Monsoon's fittings, but I have no experience with them myself. You can search OCN for plenty of threads of compression vs. barb, and make your own choice on that. For the radiators I chose, I went with matching ones (aesthetics), but you can mix and max as you see fit in your build. I went with 30mm thick radiators for the fact that you only have ~80mm of clearance above the motherboard tray in the Shinobi XL. Running a 30mm thickness will allow you to also run a push/pull configuration with your fans (and for fans I recommend Gentle Typhoon AP-15's 1850rpm or Noiseblocker BlackSilentPro's, but there are plenty other solid choices for radiator fans as well). You could probably also get away with keeping the 30mm thickness radiator up top, and putting a thicker one in the front (because you have more room/clearance). This should get you started, and keep reading up on those stickies. If you need anything else, don't hesitate to ask. You can post here for more help from myself and others, but also feel free to PM me if you need to. Good luck! thumb.gif


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Nothing wrong with bay Reservoirs - unless you get one with an in-built pump. Ones that can accommodate a D5 are ideal for my needs provided the case i'm working on has enough bays for one and other devices. Having to find a spot for a large D5 if it's not in a res is just annoying.
Besides, a decent bay res is a good way to let people know your rig is special tongue.gif.
Be careful with any rotary fittings though. Keep with bitspower or other well known reputable brands for any kind of fitting (Esp rotary) for peace of mind. You don't wanna be buying a fitting with rubbish seals only to have it leak on you later down the road.
Go for compression fittings if you want a nice clean look, or, if you really want security, go with barbs and jubilee clips. Don't settle for anything else but jubilee clips. Things like cable ties or those plastic clips just don't cut it in my book, and don't trust anyone who suggests you run with no clips on it at all.


Thingamajig is absolutely right, there are actually some outstanding bay reservoirs. The thing is, you just have to pick a quality one, and avoid the rubbish. But that is with ANYTHING dealing with water cooling. Also, solid advice on the fittings and how to go about deciding to trust someone's judgement Thingamajig. thumb.gif And yes, I would agree that compression fittings make for a cleaner look!
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Nothing wrong with bay Reservoirs - unless you get one with an in-built pump. Ones that can accommodate a D5 are ideal for my needs provided the case i'm working on has enough bays for one and other devices. Having to find a spot for a large D5 if it's not in a res is just annoying.

Besides, a decent bay res is a good way to let people know your rig is special tongue.gif.

Be careful with any rotary fittings though. Keep with bitspower or other well known reputable brands for any kind of fitting (Esp rotary) for peace of mind. You don't wanna be buying a fitting with rubbish seals only to have it leak on you later down the road.

Go for compression fittings if you want a nice clean look, or, if you really want security, go with barbs and jubilee clips. Don't settle for anything else but jubilee clips. Things like cable ties or those plastic clips just don't cut it in my book, and don't trust anyone who suggests you run with no clips on it at all.

I agree with the fittings but the notion that you shouldnt trust anyone that runs clampless is not cool.

You can run clampless if you take the precaution of running oversized barbs then stretching the tube over it,running jubilee clips is not recommended as they are sharp edged and cut into the tube easily if over tightened,use spring clips is you are set on running clamps and barbs.
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All of those parts seem great Addiction and I have located them all, as I live in the UK, a part from the reservoir but that should not be much of a problem. In terms of fittings I am going to go with compression fittings because I like the clean aesthetic they give. Thank you very much fir tour advice on this.
 
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I agree with the fittings but the notion that you shouldnt trust anyone that runs clampless is not cool.
You can run clampless if you take the precaution of running oversized barbs then stretching the tube over it,running jubilee clips is not recommended as they are sharp edged and cut into the tube easily if over tightened,use spring clips is you are set on running clamps and barbs.

I've seen people repeatedly get leaks from no clips on their barbs. If thats a risk you're prepared to take then it's on your shoulders. Thermal Expansion/contraction will slowly push that pipe off without anything to hold it on. Before long, it'll just pop off and you'll have a nice water feature in your rig - it'll probably happen much quicker if you transport the system alot too.

Over-tightening anything on any loop isn't a bright idea either. It'll distort seals and cause leaks. Also, not once have i seen someone complain of a jubilee clip cutting into a pipe, and really, if they couldn't see that happening while tightening it up, then maybe they shouldn't be tampering with it in the first place.

I stand by everything i said. If your daft enough to run without anything on the barbs, you deserve everything you get. Those who run clampless are no different to those who recommend running with no Anti-virus - it's an unnecessary risk.
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I agree with the fittings but the notion that you shouldnt trust anyone that runs clampless is not cool.
You can run clampless if you take the precaution of running oversized barbs then stretching the tube over it,running jubilee clips is not recommended as they are sharp edged and cut into the tube easily if over tightened,use spring clips is you are set on running clamps and barbs.

I've seen people repeatedly get leaks from no clips on their barbs. If thats a risk you're prepared to take then it's on your shoulders. Thermal Expansion/contraction will slowly push that pipe off without anything to hold it on. Before long, it'll just pop off and you'll have a nice water feature in your rig - it'll probably happen much quicker if you transport the system alot too.

Over-tightening anything on any loop isn't a bright idea either. It'll distort seals and cause leaks. Also, not once have i seen someone complain of a jubilee clip cutting into a pipe, and really, if they couldn't see that happening while tightening it up, then maybe they shouldn't be tampering with it in the first place.

I stand by everything i said. If your daft enough to run without anything on the barbs, you deserve everything you get.

I have had 3 rigs running clampless with not one leak,more often than not you have to cut the tube off the barb to get it off.
You are welcome to stand by what you say,it doesnt make it correct tho.
Oversized barbs with tubing is as safe as a compression if done right.

Read this link.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1304314/thoughts-on-1-2-barbs-with-7-16-tube-safe/0_20

It shows users of leaks when using jubilee clips....


Why the unnecessary hate for clampless users? Keep some level of professionality please.

Also..


http://www.overclock.net/t/488556/3-8-lines-over-1-2-barbs/0_20#post_5966144

Good enough for Martin,apparently he is in the same league as non AV pushers tho.....
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I have had 3 rigs running clampless with not one leak,more often than not you have to cut the tube off the barb to get it off.
You are welcome to stand by what you say,it doesnt make it correct tho.
Oversized barbs with tubing is as safe as a compression if done right.
Read this link.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1304314/thoughts-on-1-2-barbs-with-7-16-tube-safe/0_20
It shows users of leaks when using jubilee clips....
Why the unnecessary hate for clampless users? Keep some level of professionality please.
Also..
http://www.overclock.net/t/488556/3-8-lines-over-1-2-barbs/0_20#post_5966144
Good enough for Martin,apparently he is in the same league as non AV pushers tho.....


I think if you have enough experience to understand what running clampless brings to the table, then by all means go for it. However, I would never recommend it to someone who has zero experience or understanding of water cooling, or anyone undertaking their first water cooled build. This is what I was referring to when I agreed with Thingamajig. For me, I took that as "don't do as they do if they recommend doing it", maybe I misunderstood it. Still though, I prefer not to get blamed and have to deal with them down the road because of their possible future problems if I was the one who told them to run clampless in the first place. smile.gif Just my 2cents.gif for what its worth.
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