Originally Posted by Donkey1514
So your idea/plan is to never move beyond SB/IB?
That's not what I'm saying at all, but I feel that if the TC is going to move on from SB/IB (or any major change in any Cat), we need to make sure what we are moving to is popular enough to justify making the move.
Six SB-E folders (all but one of whom are not currently folding a steady 20+/7) is not enough to justify adding them to the TC. Also, we can't look at SB-E as "oh, it is just the new version of the SB/IB chips." These are server grade chips that cost nearly double (or more) what the SB/IB chips cost, so any belief that these will become as popular / prevalent as the SB/IB i7s is preposterous.
Personally, it just feels to me that instead of going out and trying to recruit new SB/IB i7 folders, we're trying to take the easy way out and just fill the slots with SB-E guys when doing so could have a huge impact on the TC. Or it may have no impact, but we don't know either way, we don't have enough data to make that conclusion.
Really, my big issue is with making this change and not knowing what the impact could be because we don’t have proper numbers on it. From the looks of it, we can only get numbers from one folder, albertsjj37, as the others are too inconsistent to pull any real data from. So based off the numbers of one folder, we are going to make a major change to the TC? I just think we need more data on it before we go to allowing this.
I'm all for moving the TC forward, but I’m against doing so without proper justification. In the past, even when IB hit, we collected data, saw how it compared to SB, then made had the vote. And that was just moving in a logical progression, SB to SB/IB. This is potentially much bigger because the SB-E chips are not just a logical progression of a chip series, but are on a different plane, vastly different price point, and quite possibly on a whole different PPD scale.
I want to see the TC move forward, but not in such a way that it could hurt the TC’s spirit. We’re here to have what should be a fair competition, may the best team with the best OCs on the same/similar hardware
win. SB-E is not similar hardware to SB/IB. That’s all I’m saying.