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I used AS-5 for years but I heard it was conductive and after one time re-applying thermal paste to my GTX260 I killed it. Not sure if it was due to ESD or AS-5 but I stopped using it. Making sure to not get AS-5 on anything but the CPU/GPU (As well as other pastes too, not just AS-5).

I now use Tuniq TX-2.

PS: AS-5 = Arctic Silver 5. tongue.gif
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I used AS-5 for years but I heard it was conductive and after one time re-applying thermal paste to my GTX260 I killed it. Not sure if it was due to ESD or AS-5 but I stopped using it. Making sure to not get AS-5 on anything but the CPU/GPU (As well as other pastes too, not just AS-5).
I now use Tuniq TX-2.
PS: AS-5 = Arctic Silver 5. tongue.gif

who is better between the TX 2 and TX 4?
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I would vote for the same TIM as I find best on my CPU : MX-4
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I would vote for the same TIM as I find best on my CPU : MX-4

wow, It looks like the MX-4 is get a largest selection from all the members in here,,,,to make it more simple, I consider the PK1 and the MX4, who is better between them?

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and for all, what is the best method to spread the paste into a card?
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I haven't used anything but MX-4. I have no complaints whatsoever with it.

I use the small x method to apply.
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I'm still a pretty devoted AS5 guy... it definitely has a wide temperature interval but I tend to prefer that. It's based on how you mount, if you mount things well, it's still a top performer. If you have a poor mount, it doesn't perform as well as others.
 
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Honestly, you probably won't see too much improvement over stock. MSI has been known to occasionally improperly apply TIM at the factory, but that's rare and only for MSI.

To start off, AS5 is VERY BAD EVEN FOR CPUs. It's pretty old, and though it has good performance, it has a LOOONG cure time. Modern pastes like MX-4 have the same performance, but it's safe to use on chips without an IHS (like GPUs) and there's very little cure time. I'd recommend MX-4 or PK-3. I also hear that diamond particle stuff is pretty good on CPUs as well, but I don't know if it's capacitive or conductive. They should warn you on the product page about things like that.

Same as the best method for CPUs, a small dot in the middle. Use a much smaller dot, you'll cover the whole chip with a very small dab. Perhaps a blob 1/3 the size of a grain of rice for a GPU.

AS5 is unsafe for GPUs and chipsets. While it's not conductive (that would be very bad), it is slightly slightly slightly capacitive. This could short the GPU infrequently, and eventually end up killing the card. Basically, whatever's recent and cheapest. Cooler Master has some pretty bad ones, but the cure time is near instant. I think MX-4 is only like an hour compared to the strict two weeks of exacting power cycles for AS5 curing.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-January-2012/1468

here is a roundup of popular compounds until Jan 2012. They're used on CPUs with an IHS using the grain of rice method. It's been proven that the grain of rice method works best by that same site here:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/What-is-the-Best-Way-to-Apply-Thermal-Grease-Part-1/1303/10

Less is more in this case. The tiniest dot method didn't even cover the whole CPU IHS surface, but still tied for first place. Slathering it on and using one or two lines were of varying degrees worse than the tiny dot and small dot method. I personally would use enough to cover the whole die, but just barely, so it doesn't clog up the heat transfer.

The site I mentioned didn't seem to test MX-4, but the PK-3 is listed as "prolimatech thermal compound" which is at the very top of the delta graph. I've read reviews that bash on AS5 and Ceramique with results that don't wait for the Arctic cure time. MX-4 and PK-3 perform well in these tests, showing the Arctic Silver weakness. Even when cured (in Hardware Secrets testing) Ceramique was worse than PK-3. Worse performance, AND worse cure time? Sounds like a real winner. Still, Ceramique and AS5 is cheap, and I justify the $4 saved with the 2 week cure time, especially since I build PCs frequently for others. They won't notice the cure time, but I still use an old tube of MX-3 on my personal rig (similar performance to MX-4 except it's thicker and has a longer cure, though not as long as AS5).

Just my two cents. More like $200 actually. Wow, that was long.

EDIT: actually, MX-4 was tested, but it tested relatively bad, though still in the top few C. This could be put down to a margin of error. All the top 2C pastes are pretty good, just look for cheapest and least cure time.
Edited by 267267123 - 12/11/12 at 9:08pm
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I like PK1 because it is thick enough to get a good spread, as it will stay in a small blob until you apply pressure instead of running.

By far the best method for applying TIM that I've tried is tinting. I have not used it on a GPU, but with CPU's it gives a consistent 3C drop compared to the same paste non-tinted. The PK1 is one of the best pastes for this application method as well IMHO as it is metallic and thick but not electrically conductive. The less you have to use the better, and tinting allows you to use an absolutely miniscule amount compared to anything else.
   
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wow, It looks like the MX-4 is get a largest selection from all the members in here,,,,to make it more simple, I consider the PK1 and the MX4, who is better between them?
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and for all, what is the best method to spread the paste into a card?

They are almost identical.

Both are really easy to work with: they are very fluid and clean off easily when necessary...and both are within 1 degree of each other. The MX-4 wins but, whichever is cheapest in your area will be fine.

And don't spread it. You place a dot in the center of the gpu itself then put the heatsink back on and let the pressure spread it--so it fills the imperfections on it's own. Use a dot about the size of a small pea.
 
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Honestly, you probably won't see too much improvement over stock. MSI has been known to occasionally improperly apply TIM at the factory, but that's rare and only for MSI.
To start off, AS5 is VERY BAD EVEN FOR CPUs. It's pretty old, and though it has good performance, it has a LOOONG cure time. Modern pastes like MX-4 have the same performance, but it's safe to use on chips without an IHS (like GPUs) and there's very little cure time. I'd recommend MX-4 or PK-3. I also hear that diamond particle stuff is pretty good on CPUs as well, but I don't know if it's capacitive or conductive. They should warn you on the product page about things like that.
Same as the best method for CPUs, a small dot in the middle. Use a much smaller dot, you'll cover the whole chip with a very small dab. Perhaps a blob 1/3 the size of a grain of rice for a GPU.
AS5 is unsafe for GPUs and chipsets. While it's not conductive (that would be very bad), it is slightly slightly slightly capacitive. This could short the GPU infrequently, and eventually end up killing the card. Basically, whatever's recent and cheapest. Cooler Master has some pretty bad ones, but the cure time is near instant. I think MX-4 is only like an hour compared to the strict two weeks of exacting power cycles for AS5 curing.
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Give us a break. AS5 is not BAD, it s a fine TIM, though I have found MX-4 to performa a little better. Curing time really doesn't matter that much - it is not that long.

It is not conductive but slightly capacitive as you note - but it is safe and will not short anything out. Capacitive won;t "short the GPU infrequently". That statement is a load of crap.
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