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Haswell is not worth waiting for, probably isn't going to be a huge performance leap, and you'd have to wait for 6 months. If you wait for 8xxx you will have to pay a preimium price, and it will take a couple of months for prices to drop. Now that 7xxx are probably as cheap as they'll get, it wouldn't say it's a bad decision to just buy one now.
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Haswell is not worth waiting for, probably isn't going to be a huge performance leap, and you'd have to wait for 6 months. If you wait for 8xxx you will have to pay a preimium price, and it will take a couple of months for prices to drop. Now that 7xxx are probably as cheap as they'll get, it wouldn't say it's a bad decision to just buy one now.

Why isn't Haswell going to be a large performance leap? It's not a die-shrink like IB was.
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Why isn't Haswell going to be a large performance leap? It's not a die-shrink like IB was.
Because Intel has no reason to do a big jump, and Haswell seems for the most part to be aimed at the mobile market. And then the person I replied to (which I didn't quote) would have to wait for half a year.
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post #144 of 174
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Why isn't Haswell going to be a large performance leap? It's not a die-shrink like IB was.
Because Intel has no reason to do a big jump, and Haswell seems for the most part to be aimed at the mobile market. And then the person I replied to (which I didn't quote) would have to wait for half a year.

Why don't they? Intel has been trying to increase performance significantly in ways that also keep power consumption low...That's partially why they've got such low power consumption, we'll get a decent amount extra IPC while also using less or equal power.
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Although i'm not an Ati fan these cards are awesome....does anyone know how much these cost?
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post #146 of 174
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Why don't they? Intel has been trying to increase performance significantly in ways that also keep power consumption low...That's partially why they've got such low power consumption, we'll get a decent amount extra IPC while also using less or equal power.
Not really, Intel right now doesn't need to release anything because they already have the fastest CPUs. I really doubt IPC is going to be more than 10-15%.

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Although i'm not an Ati fan these cards are awesome....does anyone know how much these cost?
Probably a premium the first few months, so I don't know, around $50 more than the current gen cards wouldn't seem too unreasonable.
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Why don't they? Intel has been trying to increase performance significantly in ways that also keep power consumption low...That's partially why they've got such low power consumption, we'll get a decent amount extra IPC while also using less or equal power.
Not really, Intel right now doesn't need to release anything because they already have the fastest CPUs. I really doubt IPC is going to be more than 10-15%.

Not in the mobile market, iirc the Atom is being beaten by the latest A15s.
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Not really, Intel right now doesn't need to release anything because they already have the fastest CPUs. I really doubt IPC is going to be more than 10-15%.
Probably a premium the first few months, so I don't know, around $50 more than the current gen cards wouldn't seem too unreasonable.

That wasn't known when they were designing haswell...

It's safe to assume that the reason we don't have a 6-core on the mainstream platform is because of low competition in the price range but the architecture has been locked in for a while now. It's not like they can just change it to have less IPC because BD/PD cores didn't do so well.
 
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Not really, Intel right now doesn't need to release anything because they already have the fastest CPUs. I really doubt IPC is going to be more than 10-15%.
Probably a premium the first few months, so I don't know, around $50 more than the current gen cards wouldn't seem too unreasonable.

That wasn't known when they were designing haswell...

It's safe to assume that the reason we don't have a 6-core on the mainstream platform is because of low competition in the price range but the architecture has been locked in for a while now. It's not like they can just change it to have less IPC because BD/PD cores didn't do so well.

Especially when you consider that AMD isn't as far behind as people say when you remove synthetic benchmarks and gaming from the equation...Those CPUs are within 200Mhz of each other if you look at base and turbo clocks.
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That wasn't known when they were designing haswell...
It's safe to assume that the reason we don't have a 6-core on the mainstream platform is because of low competition in the price range but the architecture has been locked in for a while now. It's not like they can just change it to have less IPC because BD/PD cores didn't do so well.
getting the most performance on IGP + mobile market what they main goal now. It is all over their slides. It is also where the money go. AMD isnt really Intel's concern @ performance market, it is the IGP and the mobile market they need to worry.

With that being said Intel need to prepare for GCN entering APU market, which is what AMD planning to put it in.
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