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tch tch tch. I I have to disagree with a lot of others. You can get what you want with your budget. First, the graphics card you have should be fine for now, assuming ultra-high settings aren't your goal. Second, here's a very nice 24" monitor that's on sale & a decent gamer:

BenQ GW2450 ($160)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014299


Note it's a glossy monitor, which is awesome, unless the computer is in a place where glare will be a problem. Now, moving on to specific games, guild wars 2 is known for liking quad-core CPUs. What you go for depends on your budget.

Being in Ohio, I'm assuming you're near a microcenter. If not, recommendations will change (likely to an i5-3470 & cheap b75 mATX motherboard).

From Microcenter:
i5-3570k ($170)
http://www.microcenter.com/product/388577/Core_i5_3570K_34GHz_LGA_1155_Processor
Gigabyte z77 mobo (normally $110 - Microcenter almost always has an in-store special that allows you to purchase a z77 mobo with an i5-3570k for $50 off - so we're counting it as $60 here).
http://www.microcenter.com/product/388327/GA-Z77-DS3H_LGA_1155_Z77_ATX_Intel_Motherboard

2gb of RAM is small. So replace with more ($33):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144495

Optional if you want to overclock: Xigmatek Gaia ($20):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082&Tpk=xigmatek%20gaia

Total with all above: $383 + some for taxes.
Top-class-for-gaming cpu setup, good 24 inch monitor. Keep everything else form the old system.
    
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doh.gif didn't even think about mc as an option. i'm about 1 hr. from one and might be worth a drive. thumb.gif +1 for you sir
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ok so @ mc i can get for the same price -$320
a) amd 8320 & gig 990fxa ud5
b) intel 3570k & asus z77 v-pro

i know what i would be getting with the intel, as it's pretty much my sig rig but shinier. amd however i have no clue. also i have never used a gig mobo before, how easy will ocing be? are the bios friendly?
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ok so @ mc i can get for the same price -$320
a) amd 8320 & gig 990fxa ud5
b) intel 3570k & asus z77 v-pro
i know what i would be getting with the intel, as it's pretty much my sig rig but shinier. amd however i have no clue. also i have never used a gig mobo before, how easy will ocing be? are the bios friendly?

If you are going to be keeping the GTX 460 I wouldn't even bother with overclocking, you are going to bottlekneck on it pretty hard.

I am, honestly, astonished that people would be willing to suggest keeping the 460 just so you can squeeze into an Intel product. It makes me cringe to think that is what OCN has come to. Your brother is going to see far better performance in gaming with the FX 4300 + 7850 route I had suggested than a 3570K, or even FX8320, and a GTX 460. It is just that simple.

In regard to the 8320, there isn't a game out there that takes advantage of 8 cores, as the vast majority of games are still being optimized around dual cores. The exception to this being games like Crysis 3, which are now around 4 cores.

I still strongly stand behind my original suggestion, that is going to give him the best performance out of the discussed options, as well as be the best bang for the buck. If you do go the "Squeeze the budget for Intel", I wouldn't be concerned with overclocking in the slightest, there won't be any point to it with having a GTX 460 in the rig.
    
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Bulldozer was a Flop, Piledriver the 83xx, 63xx, and 43xx is about on par with Sandy Bridge
Lol no

Get the 3570k. CPU upgrades generally lasts longer than GPU ones. For the GPU, wait for 8xxx series and he can buy a cheap 8850 which will run every single game out there..
Edited by Stefy - 12/11/12 at 11:41am
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Lol no.

The guy is already having a hard enough time, the last thing he needs added to this thread is a comment like yours. It is completely baseless, if you don't like the original claim, back yours up with fact.

As was stated, Pile Driver is very close to Sandy Bridge performance, and is cheaper, that can't be argued. It is close enough in performance that unless you were told what was in the rig when gaming, you wouldn't be able to tell.
    
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The guy is already having a hard enough time, the last thing he needs added to this thread is a comment like yours. It is completely baseless, if you don't like the original claim, back yours up with fact.
As was stated, Pile Driver is very close to Sandy Bridge performance, and is cheaper, that can't be argued. It is close enough in performance that unless you were told what was in the rig when gaming, you wouldn't be able to tell.
He has an MC not too far away from him. Are you saying he shouldn't be getting the 3570k even at the same price point? rolleyes.gif
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As was stated, Pile Driver is very close to Sandy Bridge performance, and is cheaper, that can't be argued. It is close enough in performance that unless you were told what was in the rig when gaming, you wouldn't be able to tell.

I'll agree if the option is no upgrades later an FX 4300 + 7850 would be a solid gaming rig. However, I disagree that these CPUs are anywhere close to SB.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/700?vs=363

With that said, if within the next XX months he could buy his own GPU then hooking him up with an IB setup now would be ideal.
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If you are going to be keeping the GTX 460 I wouldn't even bother with overclocking, you are going to bottlekneck on it pretty hard.
I am, honestly, astonished that people would be willing to suggest keeping the 460 just so you can squeeze into an Intel product. It makes me cringe to think that is what OCN has come to. Your brother is going to see far better performance in gaming with the FX 4300 + 7850 route I had suggested than a 3570K, or even FX8320, and a GTX 460. It is just that simple.
In regard to the 8320, there isn't a game out there that takes advantage of 8 cores, as the vast majority of games are still being optimized around dual cores. The exception to this being games like Crysis 3, which are now around 4 cores.
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the 460 isn't a definate at this point. it's going to depend on the monitor(his biggest request). right now its a 15"crt with a pretty bad image burn in of my parents old desktop background. i have a line on a 22" lcd my sister in law wants to get rid of. so if i can snag that up for free, the 460 might get replaced and go back to my dedicated folding card.
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The guy is already having a hard enough time

you have no idea. i would love to just go all out for the kid, but i don't have that kind of budget. i am trying to help him out as much as possible because my parents are clueless and basically think its a waste of money.

thumb.gif appreciate all the help so far guys keep it comming
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