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This should be a baseline. You can upgrade the gfx card later.

PS: If you get that 22" then you could get a HD7850 with the above setup ! That mobo is a mATX mobo, tiny but has all candy like usb3 and sata3. You could get a regular ATX board for $50 more but what's the point if you won't overclock. This way, you could even get a mini case biggrin.gif
Edited by Catscratch - 12/11/12 at 12:09pm
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I'll agree if the option is no upgrades later an FX 4300 + 7850 would be a solid gaming rig. However, I disagree that these CPUs are anywhere close to SB.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/700?vs=363
With that said, if within the next XX months he could buy his own GPU then hooking him up with an IB setup now would be ideal.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=288

Vishera called. It wants a fair fight between a $200 CPU (Intel 2500k) and a $180 CPU (FX-8350)
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post #23 of 49
You can get a UD3 instead of a UD5 and save $70 with a 8320 bundle..
http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.aspx

Guild Wars 2 would run noticeably better on the Intel setup, though.
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He has an MC not too far away from him. Are you saying he shouldn't be getting the 3570k even at the same price point? rolleyes.gif

The 8320 is at the same price as the 3570K. I suggested the 4300, lower price point. So yes, I absolutely say he gets the card and processor.

The other thing that has not been mentioned in this thread.....

Longevity...

AMD announced at the end of September they were keeping AM3+ socket for awhile, even launching Steam Roller on it, the next step up from Pile Driver. While Intel already stated that Haswell, the next chip after Ivy Bridge, is a completely different socket than 1155, as it will be using the 1150 socket.

It sounds like the OP's brother doesn't have any choice for upgrading his system on a regular basis, and at this rate more or less is done by family. I would assume he is in his teens? No income, just a regular teen wanting to game. By going with the AM3+ socket with the 4300 his brother can upgrade later to Steam Roller, or even a higher end Pile Driver if he had the need.....

So within the budget, I suggested a system that replaces video card with one that, in some cases, is twice as fast. A great processor, a great motherboard, and memory, and still leaving enough for a new display. On top of this there is still support for the socket for another couple of years from AMD...

While the Intel route is....

No GPU, dead end socket, maybe a display? All with no true REAL WORLD performance increase, at least not perceivable, over the FX 4300 route.
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Originally Posted by coachmark2 View Post

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=288
Vishera called. It wants a fair fight between a $200 CPU (Intel 2500k) and a $180 CPU (FX-8350)

Someone with some sense about them....

It is the tripe that he (Sephero) posted that confuses people. They take a ~$120 processor and put it against a ~$200 process or and go "Look! X architecture is better!!!".....

Sometimes I hate this forum, I spend so much time trying to clean up the crap people post....Thanks for helping me! +Rep to you!

EDIT:

For what it might be worth; As a parent and a brother, if I were in your situation, I would absolutely go with the 4300 combo.
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The 3570k will have bette re-sale value than the FX. If you want to, and don't intend to overclock, just grab the cheapest mobo you can find and the 3570k from MC.
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The 3570k will have bette re-sale value than the FX. If you want to, and don't intend to overclock, just grab the cheapest mobo you can find and the 3570k from MC.

Uhh...

It is already obvious that the OP's family keep their hardware until its dying breath. Resell value has little to no factor in this.......
    
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Uhh...
It is already obvious that the OP's family keep their hardware until its dying breath. Resell value has little to no factor in this.......
Then why not grab the best of the best when you're not going to get rid of it anyway? Lol.
Edited by Stefy - 12/11/12 at 12:37pm
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FX chip for gaming, just the thought makes me chuckle.

There are a few games that the FX either presents a negligible difference in or wins.
A broad single-sided 'fanboyist' approach helps nobody.
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PostalTwinkie has a valid point. For most games, the GPU has far more influence on performance than any CPU. So cutting back on CPU (the fx-4300) and getting a better GPU (the 7850) isn't a bad idea. That said, the benefit of the more powerful GPU is only going to be felt if you do go for the monitor upgrade. And if you were thinking of upgrading the GPU next Christmas, instead of this year, I'd rather stick with the i5-3570k + 460 for a year. Also, his specific recommendations don't allow for a monitor upgrade - that makes them not very good (they total to $400 without monitor).

The 460 is not a bad GPU at all. It was only a couple of months ago I was still recommending budget gamers buy them for $80 while EVGA had some b-stock 460s left. It'll handle a monitor upgrade fine - unless you're turning graphics settings from medium to very high on the more graphics intensive games. After all, you don't want to make gaming TOO intensive for a kid, they'll like it too much, lol.

With that said, I stand by my initial recommendations (i5 from Microcenter, monitor upgrade, sticking with 460), not least because Guild Wars 2 is supposed to make use of CPU power pretty well.
    
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Thread Starter 
well i just got home from mc. picked up the following
3570k
asrock z77 extreme 4
hyper 212evo
8gb of samsung wonder ram all for around $400

and the monitor is a go from the sister in law, things are looking good!
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