Originally Posted by ezikiel12
1. "AA Missiles are more difficult to dodge in Jets, this was unintended behavior that created an imbalance against skilled pilots." - point basically proven
2. Teamwork! If your working together properly they will always be in the proper area of them map.
3. No in-game voip = a lack of basic teamwork abilities. Simple fact. Not everyone is part of a gaming community with a mumble server.
4. "BF3 is bigger than any other FPS." Must I even reply to that?
5. They can release DLC, it's simply getting old with the $15 for a few maps and weapons. So for almost a third of the price of the whole game I get a few maps, 5 different times...
6. "If you can't use battlelog I don't understand how you can use the rest of the internet. " Putting words in my mouth, I'm not retarded. Battlelog is ridiculous, why use a web interface when you could put all of the same features into a nicely packaged in-game interface?
"Sounds like you never played BF3 or you tried it during launch and complained and ran away from it, Please don't misinform people that your misguided info" -no commander, no voip, squad member spawns, expensive DLC, and the fact that console development + singleplayer dev time could have been spent making a better multiplayer (like BF2 and those prior). Not sure how I'm misguiding people.
1. AA missiles back then never locked on, no need to dodge.
2. I thought it was clear we were talking pubs and not clan matches here. No way is everyone one in any open squad ready to conform to your battle plan. Sometimes it is better to make your own and others can spawn on you. This is where tools like the spawn beacon can come in handy. Plus you can't spawn on teammates if they are all dead. What if you are purposely staying back to snipe?
3. True but it is in no way a deal breaker as there are other options. Some of which are in BL itself.
4. Yes look at what BF maps offer and compare them to any game offering a similar experience. The raw map size might be dwarfed by mmo-shooters like planetside but planetside's maps are mostly simplistic expanses of open space with bases here and there which hardly add to the combat in the same way BF3 maps do. Could the maps be more like BF2? Sure, they could do that now by just pulling the borders of the maps out further calling it a day but it isn't about how large the map is. It is about the scale and diversity of the environment.
5. Once again no one is forcing any of this completely optional content on to you. I have yet to hear any premium members complain that they didn't get enough for their money just the other way around.
6. For all intents and purposes besides taking you out of your server searching and stat tracking safety bubble of staying in-game, what has BL done that is so that has made it so difficult or inconvenient to use? Not at all hard to adapt to as it actually gets you to your games and content faster than any in-game menu ever could.
No commander isn't a deal breaker for most BF players as it was not the pivotal point of the game. There were just as many bad aspects to commander as there was good especially if your commander was crap. There is alternatives to your concerns about in game chat which again doesn't make it a deal breaker. So now you don't like squad spawns? If completely optional DLC is expensive to you personally then don't buy. If not having the DLC hurts the game that much then just spent the $15 as it seems to already mean so much to your quality of gameplay. Also the console and singleplayer aspects of the game are there for a reason as people do use them. Do I wish BF3 was a PC exclusive, of course, did it break the game because it wasn't? Not at all.
So what I'm hearing is a few personal dislikes blown out of proportion mixed in with some valid criticisms that are still fairly minor. Overall there is nothing game breaking about anything you said. If what you listed bothers you to the point where you cannot enjoy the game then you are right in not playing it. Although I completely question your expectation as well as your ability to adapt within the confines of the game to create the exact experience you are looking for. I know plenty of people in BF3 that can only play in matches with heavy teamwork and they are able to do so easily by networking through the game and IRL. It isn't hard to make a few friends and favorite a few servers to get to the competitive level you want. So yes basicly saying a 8/10 online shooter as a 4/10 because it isn't a 10/10 is misleading.