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Play Planetside 2 for a while.. Then tell me Battlefield is a well balanced game.

1: Get in a plane, get shot down immediately unless you have uber skills.
2: What's the point of spawn beacons when your entire squad is a beacon?
3: No commander? AND no Voip? Worse than Call of Duty on the teamwork front.
4: The game is also developed for consoles. Game clearly had to be scaled down. Also, ditch the campaign!!
5: COD-like DLC
6: The whole Battlelog thing is complete nonsense too. It's horribly unintuitive and the server browser is complete trash.

7: As long as PS2 is out, BF3 is quite obsolete.

I like Archngamin's response to this. But there are some things that I would like to add.
3: lulnope. I was in a match last night CQ, me and this guy were boss. Started with 1,000 tickets, our team had 827 left when the other team reached zero. I went 15:17 and got 4th place with over 10,000 XP. Me and this guy were a well oiled machine, I dealt with the armor and he replenished my ammo. This was the PS3 version.
4: So was BC1&2, BF1943... BF3 is better than all of those statistically. Also, Battlefield in general is a MP game series.
5: COD has 1+GB DLC that adds weapons and maps?
6: Server browser is fantastic for me, then again, I am not using the PC version of the game.
7: You need to learn the definition of "obsolete" before using the word. Cause you used it out of context.
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I lost all respect when they nerfed SKILL.
(march update).
Basically, skilled players had TOO MUCH SKILL, so they literally removed a game play mechanic. A good pilot could play WITHOUT flares, and hence do more damage - but it was risky. Fail a dodge and you're dead. Succeed, and you've got two weapon perk slots. Instead of increasing travel speed, or something along that line, they simply made it nearly impossible to dodge missiles. I stopped playing shortly after. Any dev that needs to nerf things DUE TO SKILL is obviously bad.
I won't be buying BF4, either.
I really liked BF2, BF2142 and I still play BC2 every now and then. They're all GREAT games. In BC2, the 870MCS + slugs is essentially a skill tube. If you're good, you're deadly with it. If you're bad, you're useless. They never "patched" that or anything. In fact, they made it BETTER with a patch by fixing the cross hairs so they would reflect its real accuracy.
So how has BF3 faired (for me)? Poorly. Extremely poorly. I'm not wowed by the graphics, the game play is weak and gimmicky, etc.

Well, if there isn't any counter possible to something in a game, the game is not balanced. I've never played BF3 but I guess AA missiles is the main anti-air weapon. I would rage if AA weapons were useless.
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I'd love to see the game improve. I really would. But I can't help but feel like the DLC isn't doing that for me. Seeing as... I'm not buying the DLC. So all the DLC is doing for me is dwindling the number of servers I can play in. When I get the cash to buy it I'll be so happy. But until then I'm kind of stuck. Hopefully everyone is still playing by the time that happens.
TLDR: I wish the DLC was free or at least inexpensive.
1: ?
2: ?
3: ?
4: God help us all with this one. I wish they'd just leave us alone.
5: Stopped buying nVidia because this type of thing happened to me a lot way back when.
Please go on about 1-3 because I never noticed those things.

My 670 can run bf3 perfectly with no issues at all tongue.gif
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Well, if there isn't any counter possible to something in a game, the game is not balanced. I've never played BF3 but I guess AA missiles is the main anti-air weapon. I would rage if AA weapons were useless.

Before the update he is mentioning soldier AA was useless against Jets. He is just mad he doesn't get to fly the entire game without so much as a a slight risk of death from something other than an enemy jet so he can have an inflated K/D ratio. A lot of Jet only players complained about that update but all it did was make the game balanced to encourage people would have to play on foot once and a while instead of sitting in a jet all game.
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no VOIP in-game pretty much killed any teamwork in this game unfortunately.

This was the single thing that completely ruined the game. I sued to be able to join a game of BF and work with my team mates, but now if I am not with friends I have no way of coordinating with people and when I am with friends I can only talk to to just a few people and still not coordinate with other squads etc...

Completely ruined the battlefield experience IMO. It effectively made it into a CoD style game where everyone is out for themselves running around with they mouths sewed shut - complete and utter blunder. I would have played this game so much more if there was in game VOIP. mad.gif

Last time I checked there is voice chat and you can either talk to just your squad or your whole team.
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My peeves are
Biased rant. (Click to show)
1 - Nerf, Nerf, Nerf - To the point many guns are basically the same and there is no point in using anything but a select few.

2 - Hit reg - The getting shot behind cover thing because some scrub from the otherside of the planet with hamster powered internet connection decides to join your server with a ping of something insane... yeah you were behind cover but on his screen you were in the open dancing the can-can.

3 - Cheaters - Not the blatant in your face idiots that go 500-15 but the subtle ones that pretend they are pro... look at the banwaves often there are high level players with over 1K+ hours played. The game really is riddled form day 1 with cheats

4 - DLC - Some of the maps clearly were not tested or if tested done by a legion of fanbois that had applied for jobs at DICE so simply piled on the praise, current example some of the Aftermath maps have awfully designed rubble that leaves you spamming spacebar to vault over but just spazzing out on the concrete block then getting shot.

5 - Camo..... seriously everyround it reverts back to default skins... Y U NO SAVE MY CAMO! Whats the point in all these skins when to use them I need to rechoose EVERY time! (oh and gun camos do as well + I hate gun camo I want my damn gun plain and to STAY plain between rounds).

6 - Premium Assignments - Who the hell comes up with these???? I mean really they are rarely fun to complete infact many border on the stupid/pointless all for a crumby weapon camo I dont even want.

7 - Did I already QQ about NERF NERF NERF?

1: >Complaining about a lot of guns.
Where is the problem exactly? Oh, basically the same? Then use whatever gun you want. Jeez, if you are going to complain about something don't go on about options.
2: Have never had that happen to me in the 7 hours that I have played the game. (Only got the game recently.)
3: Not a cheater if they are just skilled.
4: DLC is bad? Then I can safely assume you just got BF1942 and never got Road to Rome or Secret Weapons of WWII?
5: Never had that problem.
6: Then don't do them? Jeez, you are sounding like you they are at your house and have you at gun-point.
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Well, if there isn't any counter possible to something in a game, the game is not balanced. I've never played BF3 but I guess AA missiles is the main anti-air weapon. I would rage if AA weapons were useless.

Before the update he is mentioning soldier AA was useless against Jets. He is just mad he doesn't get to fly the entire game without so much as a a slight risk of death from something other than an enemy jet so he can have an inflated K/D ratio. A lot of Jet only players complained about that update but all it did was make the game balanced to encourage people would have to play on foot once and a while instead of sitting in a jet all game.

People who care about their K/D in BF3...
lolreally? God forbid they make the game more balanced! tongue.gif
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BF3 is definitely one of my favorite games, if only they added VoIP into it. Would have made the game near perfect. Wish they could sort out the hackers better though ;/
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I have been playing since beta and been enjoying it. I like how the game itself and the dlcs cater to most groups in the fps spectrum in giving them the option to play whatever that suits them.

I welcome more dlcs, weapons, and updates. Even though some weapons might feel the same, I think its just provides some additional value in terms of visual gratification. Its not like you are forced to use them all, unless you have a personal goal in gaining those mastery tags.

The one part that got my attention in the article was the abusive administrators part. I understand they pretty much have the right to do "whatever" since its their server(s). The best to deal with this is to try play the many servers and try to see what place is comfortable for you.

the lack of VOIP does suck, but luckily some servers have a public TS which is beneficial. I do hope that they will implement the voip soon.

Hit detection is no doubt a problem, but mainly due to how it is client based and something dice/ea has admitted is an issue at the core. Hopefully, BF4 will get it right from the ground up, but I am in no rush in seeing bf4 coming out. Maybe 3yrs later would be good.

with regards to hackers, they will always be a problem on the PC platform. I mean, you can look at all those bans on pbbans and that's just one source if servers opt to use 3rd partying streaming since PB itself is not enough. Active admins and 3rd party streaming sites have been the best way to deal with hackers.

In the end, EA/Dice was able to put everything into one giant package. Is it neat and refined? I say not quite, but as long as they continue to try to support the game, that's a positive step into the right direction.
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It's good and bad, and rustles peoples soft underbellies too much at times.

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I'm still getting shot behind cover
Still getting no packet flow kicks
Still lags when switching weapon
Hackers everywhere
Most unstable game on my nvidia card

-______-

3 of those 4 problems sound like an issue on your end, even with me playing for this long I haven't seen many hackers, if none at all. And if there were some, my goodness they must of been bad even with hacks.
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Last time I checked there is voice chat and you can either talk to just your squad or your whole team.
1: >Complaining about a lot of guns.
Where is the problem exactly? Oh, basically the same? Then use whatever gun you want. Jeez, if you are going to complain about something don't go on about options.
2: Have never had that happen to me in the 7 hours that I have played the game. (Only got the game recently.)
3: Not a cheater if they are just skilled.
4: DLC is bad? Then I can safely assume you just got BF1942 and never got Road to Rome or Secret Weapons of WWII?
5: Never had that problem.
6: Then don't do them? Jeez, you are sounding like you they are at your house and have you at gun-point.
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1 - The point is why have all these guns when they have largely been nerfed to the point they are all the same bar a selct few that are the only sensible choice now. (It didnt used to be this way the nerf nerf nerf has happened with each patch if you had more than 7 hours play you would have seen)

2 - It happens alot, hell read play some forumfield 3 its a major whine from people

3 - You miss my point entirely the cheaters are deeply woven in the game. When there are banwaves there are often players caught out with 1000 or more hours play and colonel 100, even youtubers have been caught the problem is massive and the cheaters are often clever and discrete.

4 - Again you miss my point... can you actually read or do you jsut randomly decide what was written? I didnt say DLC is bad, I said the maps often have poor design that shows a lack of QC or testing, I should not need to spam my spacebar 14 times to vault a trench that is designed to be vaulted out of jsut because the rubble is at silly angles.

5 - You have played 7 hours... nuff said you are a noob so prob aint even unlocked new camo

6 - The point is they are clearly something they thought of at the office party while drunk, we paid for this stuff so expecting some quality and thought is not too much to demand

My "rant" is not "biased" as you call it. I have nearly 500 hours ingame my peeves are based on that. You on the otherhand insult me with the "bias rant" label when infact with 7 hours ingame you are clueless and barely qualified to speak on this as you infact have no idea on most of the points people have brought here, you are jsut blindly defending your purchase. When you ahve 100+ hours ingame then come here and tell me my peeves are a "bias rant" till then you are just another noob with no idea.
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