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I've only had twice. But when you join those public games, theres always few players that drops from game.

That Rage lol.
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I just learned that I could use a PS3 controller wireless to play games on my phone. It is amazing how fast the hardware on phones is advancing. I'm able to play GTA III on my phone! Which has better graphics and performance then when it was on the PS2.

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i use an HTC EVO 4G LTE which has Qualcomm S4 Krait Cores overclocked at 1.7Ghz and even setting the image settings at 30%, it still very choppy.

the graphics isnt even close even if you max all the sliders.

even if you enable dynamic shadows on it, it isnt even close to the quality on the ps2

same for lighting
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While I think the controls are somewhat lacking when it comes to tablets/phones. Being able to plug in a keyboard/controller I think can make up for that. Both tablets and phones are not that far behind now in terms of there capabilities with a mid range PC only 6 years ago.

where you get that info?

the fact is that both the cpu and gpu on tablet and phones arent even close to a low end pc.

for example, the ATI Radeo X1650 from 2006 which is a mid range card would absolutely stomp even the one found on A6x which is PowerVRSGX544MP4 which is the fastest thing you could find by a margin.

even the latest ARM-A15 Quad Core Cpu is still slower compared to Core Duo of 2006

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I've always been a skeptic about games on tablets/phones. But the ones supporting external inputs really make them a lot more exciting. Especially for FPS and driving games. You don't need a separate handheld gaming device like a PSP.
This will not replace games I play on a PC, but I think it is a great option for when you are not home and want to play some games on the road or need something portable.

even if you use a controller, you cant make up how crappy games are on tablets and phone. physics are bad beyond belief.


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Connection issues? I've never experienced any disconnects or lag and I've played roughly 200 games.

Yeah, I dont experience any connection issues too, Only time I lagged was when I jumped to another region to fool around. biggrin.gif
   
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I dont think it would run in current tablets. Probably 1-2 year.

i bet it would definitely run on tablets, there are more graphically attractive games out there already on tablets. the thing is, people using a touch interface are not going to be competitive and are going to run the game for their team. maybe they should force all touch users into the same games
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even if you use a controller, you cant make up how crappy games are on tablets and phone. physics are bad beyond belief.
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Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine. Who cares? It's the fact that that sort of substantial progress on such a device has been made. The fact that a full fledged game (GTA III or VC) is even made possible on such a 'limited' device. A well-developed, decent story-line tablet game is just as good as any button mashing game that's every graced this earth.
 
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where you get that info?
the fact is that both the cpu and gpu on tablet and phones arent even close to a low end pc.
for example, the ATI Radeo X1650 from 2006 which is a mid range card would absolutely stomp even the one found on A6x which is PowerVRSGX544MP4 which is the fastest thing you could find by a margin.
even the latest ARM-A15 Quad Core Cpu is still slower compared to Core Duo of 2006

Which is precisely why Windows 8 tablets are going to be winning very soon.

The current set of i5 running W8 convertible ultrabooks/tabs can already run games like SC2, DOTA2, FIFA, CiV5, L4D, CS, D3 etc etc etc.

The next set of 2013 atom processors are looking to catch up with that performance with even more battery economy than they offer right now and who knows what the next set of mobile i5/i7 tablets will be doing.

There is a lot of potential for growth when you have hardware that can do everything the competition can hardware wise, while still being able to play big name x86 games.

Actually......I wonder what big picture mode would be like on a W8 tablet......if ever there was going to be a touch based Steam environment, I'd say that could easily fit the bill.
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Dota 2.........simple? No sir.
You do need to aim in Dota, it's critical for some heroes.
You only control 1 character and the scope is pretty limited, it's no where near as difficult as Starcraft 2. Anyone can pick LoL or DoTA2 up and start playing without any major problems.
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Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine. Who cares? It's the fact that that sort of substantial progress on such a device has been made. The fact that a full fledged game (GTA III or VC) is even made possible on such a 'limited' device.

Seriously what are you smoking? Have you even heard about a device called Nintendo?

The problem is not the specs but the input and how the games are intended to be played.

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A well-developed, decent story-line tablet game is just as good as any button mashing game that's every graced this earth.

Oh really? So games on tablet and phones suddenly becomes AS GOOD.

how about you name games?
Like tekken, final fantasy, suikkoden,halo, forza, gran turismo, assassins creed, etc...
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You only control 1 character and the scope is pretty limited, it's no where near as difficult as Starcraft 2. Anyone can pick LoL or DoTA2 up and start playing without any major problems.

You are correct on saying anyone can play lol and Dota; However, dota is not an easy game as you need precise control and timing to defeat your enemy especially if he is good. It also involves a lot of tactics and mind games and everytime you make a mistake, you get punished for it
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You only control 1 character and the scope is pretty limited, it's no where near as difficult as Starcraft 2. Anyone can pick LoL or DoTA2 up and start playing without any major problems.

While I'd agree that DotA is not as difficult as SC2, it definitely isn't an easy game - if that's what you think then you must not play competitively. I would also tend to say that LoL is a fair margin easier than DotA.

In any case, playing a MobA game using a touch interface is just a bad idea, especially if they are in the same matchmaking pool as PC users.
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