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The extra hyperthreaded cores and VT-d really are a must for anyone who is doing serious virtualization. I know from experience and the i7-2600 is a great chip. You can use a consumer grade motherboard too. For instance, I am using an Asrock H67 motherboard with VT-d support. That's another thing -- make sure your bios revision supports VT-d. Asrock boards usually do, as do many gigabyte boards. Some may even support ECC ram, but you would have to look into that. Also remember that VT-d can grant a vM access to hardware resources like PCI devices thumb.gif

Edit: You could probably have an i7-2600 for cheaper than a Xeon E3-1245V2 (cheapest quad core, hyperthreaded with onboard gpu Xeon) with similar performance. The iGPU is better on the Xeon, but it sounds like you don't need a great GPU.
Edited by dizzy4 - 12/12/12 at 1:15am
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The extra hyperthreaded cores and VT-d really are a must for anyone who is doing serious virtualization. I know from experience and the i7-2600 is a great chip. You can use a consumer grade motherboard too. For instance, I am using an Asrock H67 motherboard with VT-d support. That's another thing -- make sure your bios revision supports VT-d. Asrock boards usually do, as do many gigabyte boards. Some may even support ECC ram, but you would have to look into that. Also remember that VT-d can grant a vM access to hardware resources like PCI devices thumb.gif
Edit: You could probably have an i7-2600 for cheaper than a Xeon E3-1245V2 (cheapest quad core, hyperthreaded with onboard gpu Xeon) with similar performance. The iGPU is better on the Xeon, but it sounds like you don't need a great GPU.

Well actually I found the E3-3210 (Xeon) for $70 cheaper than the i7 2600 (both supporting HT) that's why I was leaning toward the Xeon although all that money will be lost if I end up getting a Server MoBo... I digress, I am still debating the OS I am going to be using, not sure / whether or not I will actually need to have any VM's. What I need is a mail service and a something to host a website. I'll probably end up getting the hardware I need based on what 'needs' I have.

Thank you though for your input, If I am going to be running VM's then I'll probably end up getting a chip with HT thumb.gif
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What is a xeon E3-3210? Are you sure you did not mean E3-1230 like in the OP?
Edited by Deeeebs - 12/15/12 at 8:22am
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There is no e3-3210. http://ark.intel.com/products/family/59137/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-Family/server

You can most likely run the e3 series in most mainstream socket 1155 boards as well
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post #25 of 30
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What is a xeon E3-3210? Are you sure you did not mean E3-1230 like in the OP?

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There is no e3-3210. http://ark.intel.com/products/family/59137/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-Family/server
You can most likely run the e3 series in most mainstream socket 1155 boards as well

It was a typo, I meant to say E3-1230. I did find it cheaper on newegg than the 2600, just for clarity. Sorry for the mishap and typo thumb.gif
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I would take the E3-1230 over the 2600k aynday, but thats me. I'm a xeon kinda guy.
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the e3-1230 is pretty good, but is 200Mhz slower than the i7-2600 and lacks onboard graphics. Which means accessing the server is harder. The e3-1245v2 is an ivy bridge chip with less power draw than the i7-2600 and e3-1230 and has onboard graphics. I am pretty sure you can use any of the 3 processors mentioned in a normal desktop board. Here is my ranking:

E3-1245v2 > i7-2600 > E3-1230
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The E3-1235 is cheaper than the E3-1245V2 and the 2600K if we are giong with integrated graphics. So if you dont have an old GPU laying around there is a $20 difference between the 1235 and 1245V2. Both being cheaper than the 2600K. If you really require the grunt clock of the 2600K then go with the E3-1245V2.

So then it becomes:

E3-1245V2 -> E3-1235 -> E3-1230 (if you have a GPU) -> 2600K
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The E3-1235 is cheaper than the E3-1245V2 and the 2600K if we are giong with integrated graphics. So if you dont have an old GPU laying around there is a $20 difference between the 1235 and 1245V2. Both being cheaper than the 2600K. If you really require the grunt clock of the 2600K then go with the E3-1245V2.
So then it becomes:
E3-1245V2 -> E3-1235 -> E3-1230 (if you have a GPU) -> 2600K

Ah good points. I was thinking the V2 would be nicer since it was a smaller manufacturing process. Less power usage is always nice, but honestly, the difference in speeds is very small. Is it worth the extra $20? I think so, but you might not thumb.gif
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Had a gts450 laying around till about 2 months ago when I gave it to a friend who was in (pretty desperate lol) need of a new gfx card. So I will probably have to end up getting something that supports integrated video
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