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Hey everyone! This is my first post of hopefully many here on OC. So I just finished doing a pretty big upgrade. My previous build was a P4 2.8ghz 2GB DDR RAM, GeForce 5900. I had enough of barely being able to watch 480P YouTube videos and put together a build. This is my build:

AMD 965BE ($84.99)
MSI 970A-G46 ($64.99)
Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 ghz Edition ($109.99)
Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) 1600 RAM ($27.99)
Ultra 750W SLI/Crossfire PS ($69.99)

I think it's a pretty solid jump, especially since it only cost me just under $360. So here are my questions.

1) I plan on doing a Crossfire setup sometime early Spring, possibly sooner. Will the 965BE be a bottleneck?
2) Without a Crossfire setup, what can I expect in terms of gaming performance stock without overclocking? What would be my limits with the newest games out?
3) If I overclock the CPU and GPU, how much will gaming performance improve?
4) I tried overclocking the GPU to what based on some research, seemed to be a normal OC setup of 1150 on the clock speed and 1250 on the memory, but things get a bit sketchy. Passmark will barely run, Heaven DX11 goes a bit crazy and MSI Kombustor wont run and gives a ton of errors. Is there something I could be doing wrong? I made sure i increased the power control to +20.

I think it's important to mention something else. I'm currently running XP Pro 32bit. I know the OS is seriously holding my setup back since according to the system info, it's only recognizing 3GB of the 8GB and only clocking them at 800 instead of 1600. I will be going to either Windows 7 or 8 this weekend. Could the oc issues be because of the OS? Sorry for all the questions! I'm extremely excited about this build and getting into the PC world. I know this isn't the most ideal setup for gaming, but times are a bit tough and it's the best I was able to do. I've gotten tired of the consoles... Any advice or answers would be GREATLY appreciated!!
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post #2 of 14
you have a pretty decent build though i would get a more reliable psu brand like corsair or antec etc
to answer your questions your cpu wont bottleneck crossfire 7770 at all.
without crossfire the performance of the 7770 will depend upon the resolution you play at.
if you play at 1280*720 or 1366*768 then 7770 will be able to max out most games if not all. however if you play at higher resolution then you may have to adjust and lower the settings accordingly.

overclocking your cpu should yield a decent improvement in performance.
however do note that 7770 is not a good overclocker which may explain the problems you had running benchmarks.

upgrading to windows 7 or 8 64 bit should increase your performance and system responsiveness as well
    
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post #3 of 14
you have a pretty decent build though i would get a more reliable psu brand like corsair or antec etc
to answer your questions your cpu wont bottleneck crossfire 7770 at all.
without crossfire the performance of the 7770 will depend upon the resolution you play at.
if you play at 1280*720 or 1366*768 then 7770 will be able to max out most games if not all. however if you play at higher resolution then you may have to adjust and lower the settings accordingly.

overclocking your cpu should yield a decent improvement in performance.
however do note that 7770 is not a good overclocker which may explain the problems you had running benchmarks.

upgrading to windows 7 or 8 64 bit should increase your performance and system responsiveness as well
    
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Awesome, thanks for the reply! I have a Westinghouse 22 inch 1680x1050 monitor. I'm not going to pay much attention to any of the benchmarks I've done or even trying to overclock from this point forward. I have to get a new case because there is nowhere near enough airflow for this setup right now. I thought "Ultra" was a decent brand? For $69.99 (sale price) I figured it wasn't a bad deal :\
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Kingston 120GB SSD Silicon Power 120GB SSD  Seagate SATA LG DVD-RW  
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post #5 of 14
i havent heard much about ULTRA so am assuming it isnt as good as corsair or antec .
also you dont need 750 watts . get a decent 450 watt psu like corsair cx430 or antec vp 450 or less money and maybe you can squeeze in a radeon 7850 which will last longer than a 7770 at your resolution
    
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post #6 of 14
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Ahh ok. Unfortunately I already bought the setup so I guess I'll just stick with it for now. Eventually I'll get something else i guess... I got 750 because I know I was planning on running a Crossfire setup. I figured too much is better than too little. Is 750 still overkill even with a Crossfire setup?
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Kingston 120GB SSD Silicon Power 120GB SSD  Seagate SATA LG DVD-RW  
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Kingston 120GB SSD Silicon Power 120GB SSD  Seagate SATA LG DVD-RW  
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post #7 of 14
I haven't heard of ultra but if your psu is this:

http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276567

I would say cool beans.

45 amps on the 12 volt rail plus 750 watts 78% efficiency

Yeah sounds perfectly sounds given the build.
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post #8 of 14
JerzyIroc, I think you made some solid choices. It will be a huge upgrade from your previous system and the Phenom X4 + 7770 will handle most games at 1680x1050 fairly well. I don't think ULTRA PSU's are very high quality, many models I've read about tend to have lots of noise/ripple but apparently they have a good warranty. So save your purchase information, incase it does die. smile.gif
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post #9 of 14
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Yup that's the one! Got it for $69.99 on Tiger Direct. I've heard of Ultra before but only a few times. The reviews were really good on it on every site I researched it on. Even on CompUSA it has an average customer rating of 4.7 out of 852 reviews. Seemed solid to me.
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Kingston 120GB SSD Silicon Power 120GB SSD  Seagate SATA LG DVD-RW  
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post #10 of 14
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Thanks smile.gif I have all my paperwork saved from all the purchased items from this build. I actually need to register this stuff tonight. The fan does seem to be a bit loud on this PSU. Hopefully it lasts me. And yes, Apple sucks lol wink.gif
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Kingston 120GB SSD Silicon Power 120GB SSD  Seagate SATA LG DVD-RW  
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Kingston 120GB SSD Silicon Power 120GB SSD  Seagate SATA LG DVD-RW  
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