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Upgrade question: i7 920 at stock, or AMD FX8350 OC'D?

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
Hi peeps,

i have a question.. I'm starting to feel the need to upgrade, i think for most of you, it's familiar feeling smile.gif
In 2009 december i bought an i7 920, overclocked it to 4137MHz, it ran fine, until about this summer. It started to make errors, i think degradation started.
Nowadays im running it on stock 2.67 Ghz, and its OK.

However, i'll have around 500 euros to spend, and i may upgrade it.
I could get an AMD FX8350 (the 8 core, 4GHz model), and a MB for kinda cheap.

My question is: in games, and in processing power (i run BOINC), would that beat the stock 920? Overclocked ofcourse (i'm hoping for 4.5GHz+)?

I haven't found any reviews about this.

Thx for any answers.


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Since 2009, i didnt check CPU reviews, etc. Got a girlfriend, cars, etc, many thing that took away my time and energy smile.gif
I'm a noob in newer processors smile.gif That's why i'm asking for help.
Edited by Frozenstar - 12/11/12 at 4:00am
post #2 of 9
Well,

with 500 to spend you wanna be going with an i5 3570k, the 3770k would be a better option for your folding along with a GA-Z77X-D3H. If you can, get some samsung magic memory to go with it. The new 30nm stuff.

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post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 
I don't know anything about the newest Intel stuff, is there a clock-to-clock comparison between the LGA1366 cpu's and the newer ones somewhere?
post #4 of 9
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/47?vs=551

That's not overclocked, when you overclock ivy it will obliterate your i7 920.

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post #5 of 9
For 500 you could easily go with a 3770K and a Z77 system.

But if you want to cheap out you could always look for a used 980X as well, might find one for 400 after some looking. Even a 3570K would beat the old 920 when both are OCd.
 
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post #6 of 9
I really wouldn't bother with a 980x to be honest, it's not really worth it since the 3770k will beat that as well.
post #7 of 9
congrats on the gf and car! lol, just joking tongue.gif

i'd echo what has been said above, for 500euro, you can get a 3570k + mobo + ssd (120/128gb, if you don't have one currently), would be a massive upgrade for gaming, but that depends on your current graphics as wel, most of the current games are quite demanding, my 580 feels so slow these days frown.gif

i don't know much about bionc, if it is heavily cpu/core dependent, then get a 3770k + a decent z77 to unlock all the potential of the i7 ivy bridge and drop the ssd (you may be able to get a smaller ssd but i don't think the small ones are worth it, better save up and get a 120/128 - 240/256gb version later on)

mind you, for ivy bridge, you may need a decent cooler though as most reviews point to the conclusion that they tend to run a little on the warm side, but that's compared with sandy (@4.5ghz), which runs a bit cooler compared to the first gen i7s (@4ghz).
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thank you so much.

So you say i should forget AMD completely, and get a K series Intel, with the unlocked multiplier, and a Z77 board.. Hmmz.smile.gif
Just checked on an online store and its a bit under 500 euros.

What clocks can i expect from a 3770K in a good board? I'll use Megahalems, or something similar, but no watercooling. I always give the max voltage, that wont kill the cpu right away:D, so you can calculate with "max" voltage.

BOINC is 100% based on CPU power, the more cores and higher speed, the better.
post #9 of 9
in that case you should definitely consider the 3770k, i mean i can't remember exactly which games, but i did read somewhere some games do benefit from hyperthreading, so the i7 isn't completely an overkill for gaming as some might say, but without a doubt, if you don't use your pc professionally, then a 3570k would be more than enough for all games, currently.

overclocking is always a bit of a lottery for me, i chose i7 950 hoping it would overclock better than the 920 and 930s, but turned out it didn't. so i guess no one can really know what maximum overclock you can attain, it's really chip/batch dependent. but so far i think most people can get to the sort of 4.4-4.5ghz mark with reasonable temperatures. you just have to get one and mess around with it and hope for the best smile.gif

so megahalems, slap 2 fans on it then you shouldn't need to worry about temps too much smile.gif

and yeah, amd is a bit hopeless these days, the 3570k beats the latest high end amd chip hands down, and let's not even go into power efficiency when overclocked! as much as i want amd to do well in the high end market, just get a 3770k and never look back rolleyes.gif
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