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post #31 of 102
quadra posted... I guess my mouse quadra clicked :S

edit: I thought I quadra posted, but the last 2 posts are not here any more...?
Edited by raisinbun - 12/12/12 at 11:16am
post #32 of 102
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Then I continue to not understand the point of this sensor.
It's all marketing, the general market will buy something that says "NextGen Laser Sensor that goes up to 1billion DPI" a lot more often than "3600 DPI Optical Sensor".
Of course, the same people probably (99%) won't notice the acceleration, so it doesn't really matter for them. I can tell you that the Naos shell feels really incredible for palm gamers though.
post #33 of 102
I dont belive its ALL marketing, laser sensors aren't that cheap compered to the optical sensor (sure you can cheapout there and theres in your product, but I'm talking about prices only of the laser sensor only), the track quality is good, doesn't jitter on low DPI, unlimited to mousepads colors combinations, adjust LoD to your comfortable. sure the DPI on the laser is one of the biggest factor on the sales/marketing stuff, but it doesn't end there/not everything is a lie.
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To make it clear: there was a release to combat the delay, though it dosen't remove it completely.

For 99.9% of the people interested in a 9800 based mouse, the "lag" should now go unnoticed for the most part.  I personally didn't have an issue, though the 3090 model I was using felt much more responsive to hand motion.

I assume Razer and Roccat will push out firmware updates as soon as they're capable.

New sensors got the fix? Or is there a firmware update going around? Looking @ you G600
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with all this new sensor talk when is the software going to be working on the 5000 and where the mouse is unresponsive (unplug replug) when you go into the Bios
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I dont belive its ALL marketing, laser sensors aren't that cheap compered to the optical sensor (sure you can cheapout there and theres in your product, but I'm talking about prices only of the laser sensor only), the track quality is good, doesn't jitter on low DPI, unlimited to mousepads colors combinations, adjust LoD to your comfortable. sure the DPI on the laser is one of the biggest factor on the sales/marketing stuff, but it doesn't end there/not everything is a lie.

The laser sensors we had till now were bad all together (I used the word "bad", but I actually thought of words that might have been inappropriate on the forum). The early ones had unusably low perfect tracking speeds and jitter problems. And the newer generation has non-linear positive acceleration, that wouldn't bother me on a non-gaming mouse at all but here is unacceptable. Now these issues aren't really related to the sensor having a laser for illumination (other than the first laser sensors that actually just had their LEDs swapped for laser emitters and made few adjustments), they most likely are just architectural flaws. Still it makes them unusable compared to LED sensors.

The only laser sensor that had potential was the Philips Twin-Eye. Compared to all the previous sensors, it had the highest precision even at higher than usual perfect tracking speeds on most surfaces. Unfortunately it wasn't very usable on soft pads because of the z-axis tracking and had to be cleaned regularly because it was susceptible to dust particles. It's sad that they aren't getting used in newer mice anymore, because on hard pads they offered unparalleled performance and who knows maybe Philips would have perfected them.
Edited by MONVMENTVM - 12/13/12 at 3:53am
post #37 of 102
Hi. Dimensions and weight on the mionix website are correct? This mouse has 18,5x13,5x5,7cm and 320g? It is extreme big and heavy. This information is correct?
post #38 of 102
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Hi. Dimensions and weight on the mionix website are correct? This mouse has 18,5x13,5x5,7cm and 320g? It is extreme big and heavy. This information is correct?

That looks like dimensions and weight of the box to me.
post #39 of 102
well there nothing we can really do but hope because most of the top player in cs which are steelseries based i think are using avago laser sensor and that also hyping the laser sensors. In my opinion avago 3090 is a better sensor for fps based people who want laser sensor should play mmos
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post #40 of 102
In all honesty I never had a problem gaming with my Logitech G5 (both versions) or my G500 and the acceleration wasn't even bad. In most cases it was barely noticeable. Same with angle snapping on my MX518. It never bothered me as I could adjust quite easily. If they did away with the apparent lag on the 9800 then the new mionix should be a decent mouse.

Still would like them to make a slightly smaller palm mouse with a 3090 sensor as the shell did grow on me when I had the NAOS 3200.
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