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post #141 of 398
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Originally Posted by erunion View Post

Actually I didn't notice this before, but all those CPUs have 4600 graphics. Even the one 2 core model. That's a pretty big deal.
I wonder if all desktop i3s will have it too. If they do, Intel will really have stepped up their graphics game compared to IVB and put GPU horsepower where its needed.

I dunno... Just another reason this seems fishy to me. Even the low TDP i5 chips have high end iGPUs where as before they had lower end models. Only the i7 low TDP chips actually get better graphics in ivy bridge. I suppose that is different to sandy bridge where even high TDP non-k chips (like my i7-2600) only got HD 2000. So i guess this could be correct.... oh well time will tell
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post #142 of 398
it's a pathetic increase of specs. Even AMD is on 1866 memory...

I suspect it's all iGPU/iGP stuff this round, but maybe the IPC will increase more than Sandy to Ivy. Someone with any 2nd/3rd i5 or i7 would be better off just grabbing a HD 7750 ($100?) or HD6670 ($50?) for cheap.
Edited by AlphaC - 12/11/12 at 6:19pm
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post #143 of 398
I am excited to see what haswell clocks too, would be nice to go sabertooth again. biggrin.gif

However, if Intel is gonna be to greedy to solder the IHS on this time I may pass. With the price point of these CPU's, having cheap TIM is like a kick in the jewels..
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post #144 of 398
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Originally Posted by Bartouille View Post

Not impressed. Intel has no competition now so all they do is release processors every years with 5% improvement. (ex: SB to IB)
That's right. 5% improvement and probably a big price jump too. Intel might be shooting themselves in the foot. I hope the masses won't get fooled.
post #145 of 398
84 TDP... Hmmm. I don't trust this, pretty sure the aim is to lower for mobile devices...

There will not be much of a upgrade in desktop chips for a while now, maybe something to xeons if we're lucky.
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post #146 of 398
So everyone that says this is a failure while looking at a rumored spec sheet with 0 facts, why aren't you sharing your time traveling device, not cool people.

Seriously, reading through threads like these make me laugh. If Intel gets a 15% IPC improvement, it will be more than good enough improvement compared to Ivy. The goal is not to have people on Ivybridge(or even Sandybridge) upgrade, its to be an improvement over the previous generation for people that need to upgrade.
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post #147 of 398
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of course TDP is higher, its still on 22nm just like Ivy, and intel significantly increased iGPU without lowering CPU clocks... Frankly, I'm surprised its only 84W and not back up to the 95W of Sandy. Granted, this is good news because I couldn't care less about the iGPU for a desktop rig, and really would rather prefer they don't include it at all in their K series so that the chip is focused solely on providing the best CPU performance possible

I was expecting 95W as well. I suppose its just further reinforcing that Intel's focus isn't on multi threaded performance anymore. 2013 will be 5 years since they last added cores(longer if you count Core 2 Quad).

I've seen quite a few people saying that Intel has been slowing down development but I don't see it. Intel has just been using die space to add things other than cores; the north bridge has been integrated, as has a GPU. With Haswell Intel will introduce new power gating that will allow for ultra low power stand by, which should provide the sort of always-on capabilities that SoCs provide. And they've added these features while continuing to increase performance.

That the star of Haswell is going to be the ULV version shows where Intel is taking the mainstream Core brand.
Edited by erunion - 12/11/12 at 10:07pm
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Not worth buying a new motherboard for. I kinda hope these specs are fake.
    
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Not worth buying a new motherboard for. I kinda hope these specs are fake.

I hope so too, the specs don't look too impressive. Although I think the Socket is Legit.
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One problem i see with 15% IPC improvement is that it will leave IVY-E in the dust in games. It will be like X980 vs 2600K. I dont think anyone would go with much more expensive platform unless IVY-E is 8-Core.
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