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According to this, the TDP is actually up from Ivy (IB = 77W, HW = 84W).
Interesting...

Yeah.. That's what I thought. To be honest I don't beleive it at all simply because of that... It's hard to believe that a smaller architecture needs more power.
 
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According to this, the TDP is actually up from Ivy (IB = 77W, HW = 84W).
Interesting...

Yeah.. That's what I thought. To be honest I don't beleive it at all simply because of that... It's hard to believe that a smaller architecture needs more power.

 

 Your correct for not believing it.. it isnt true that Haswell needs more juice. It IS true that TDP is 84W though.. that as stated earlier in this thread - is due to the iGPU on die.. and nothing else.

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2013D = 4th quarter?

I hope not, I thought they would be Q1 or Q2
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rumor mill = July '13 public launch

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The TDP is likely due to a combination of things. Yes the bigger GPU likely has something to do with it, but that's not all of it. A lot of the IPC improvements come from keeping execution units fed with instructions, which means you use less energy for a given amount of calculation, but peak power usage can still go up.
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I just want to see how it really performs in things that matter, not specs and synthetic benchmark comparisons, but rendering and gaming and the such. The problem with benchmarks is they frequently update specially to take advantage of new tech such as instruction sets and what have you, but that gives artificial and inflated numbers vs the rest.
I do like to see them, don't get me wrong, but that isn't where I place all of my chips.
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Yeah.. That's what I thought. To be honest I don't beleive it at all simply because of that... It's hard to believe that a smaller architecture needs more power.

It's not a smaller architecture. It's the same processing node with a different architecture.

There's the beefed up iGPU, and the integrated VRMs that will contribute to additional TDP. The architecture itself may be designed to take advantage of the lower processing node and get higher IPC with a higher TDP.
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So guys what would be a wiser choice: SB-E (3970x) now or wait for haswell for a future 780gtx tri sli setup?
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I think to stay on Ivy until DDR4 for desktop.
Maybe invest in next Extreme Socket after IB-E. Until that IB will OK for gaming.
No bottleneck.

3970X is better long term investment special for more than two graphics...
Intel fast can give same performance with highly OC i7 in applications for only for cores but again thatis Six Core Processore with 4.0GHz Exactly Turbo...
You can hold on Turbo only 2 years and than to start with OC that beast.
I would go on 3970X and proven best motherboard for Extreme.
Maybe you can later sell 3970X and upgrade on IB-E for two years and give more performanse on same motherboard.
Edited by Vlada011 - 12/14/12 at 1:37pm
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I think to stay on Ivy until DDR4 for desktop.
Maybe invest in next Extreme Socket after IB-E. Until that IB will OK for gaming.
No bottleneck.
3970X 3930K is better long term investment special for more than two graphics...
Intel fast can give same performance with highly OC i7 in applications for only for cores but again thatis Six Core Processore with 4.0GHz Exactly Turbo...
You can hold on Turbo only 2 years and than to start with OC that beast.
I would go on 3970X 3930Kand proven best motherboard for Extreme.
Maybe you can later sell 3970X 3930K and upgrade on IB-E for two years and give more performanse on same motherboard.

Your idea was OK, just that 3970X is $1079.99 CPU that is barely better than a $569.99 3930K when both are overclocked. Not the best option for LGA2011 socket CPU unless you are rolling in money.
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