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Originally Posted by M3T4LM4N222 View Post

People have some sort of misconception with Haswell...
Socket 1150 Haswell = Mainstream = Dual channel DDR3, Dual + Quad Cores with integrated graphics.
Socket 2011 Ivy Bridge-E = Enthusiast = Quad channel DDR3, Quad + 6 Cores.
I'm not excited over Haswell. The most interesting thing it brings to the table is a faster more capable IGP that will still fall behind the 7660D in the Trinity based A10. In all honesty I am waiting for DDR4.

If memory performance was really a concern for you, then you'd already be on a modern Intel platform. Based on current projections of Haswell, the IGP will be a faster than 7660D assuming 100% increase in real world performance, and AMD won't have a response for at least two quarters in Kavari that will be faster than Haswell's IGP but at a significant power penalty.

At 10-17w, AMD's integrated GPU is A LOT slower than Intel's current ULV offering, so cutting this TDP in half(or almost) is significant. Can AMD maintain it's GPU crown at low TDPs? Current benchmarks say "no"
Edited by BizzareRide - 12/15/12 at 5:42am
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Originally Posted by TranquilTempest View Post

There's more to TDP than just clock speed, the amount of circuitry, and peak duty cycle of said circuitry goes up. Voltage will probably go down slightly(at stock speeds at least), and clocks will basically stay the same.

Yeah I know this, I'm just saying I expected it to be lower then the Ivy Bridges TDP. But I now know that its due to a better iGPU.
 
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is 15% higher IPC worth replacing my 4.6 ghz 3770k?
guess i have to wait for Skylake... seems so far away.

no. Especially if just for games. You'd be better off saving the money for the upcoming new GPU's, or the gen after that.
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Skylake is about 3 years far. SB 2600k will enough for gaming until Skylake.
Market is full of Intel's strong processors and I think they will increase now graphic performance and something else...
My next upgrade will be 6 cores and DDR4 Intel... I only know that and nothing else.
Skylake or some other before that I don't know...Because SB and IB are so strong for everything and I think we need to wait little generation movement and of course it's time for 6 cores.
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I was waiting on Haswell, but couldn't resist a 3770K for $230 @ Micro Center. Oh well, still a big upgrade over my phenom 955. This chip should hold me well till Skylake/Skymont.
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Not surprised at all...

I'm plenty content with my rig. Interested to see reviews though, could be an epic htpc, lol.

Skylake and Maxwell please...
 
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Like I said, it is a different architecture. With a different architecture requires a different style of motherboard to run it.
The same rule can apply to where most P67, H61 (if not all) boards are not able to run Ivy CPU's.
Even if Haswell had 1155 pins instead of 1150, Haswell would not work with Z77 motherboards.
So LGA1150 helps to notify people that the CPU will not run on Z77 boards instead of people being confused if it was LGA1155.

? Most p67 boards don't run Ivy?When did this factoid(not) pop up? headscratch.gifthumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2453441 proof.gif Ivy on p67 board
Most p67 boards will run Ivy Bridge CPUs.
I had 3570K in an H61 board too;with no problems.

False info is false.
Edited by Schmuckley - 12/16/12 at 2:28am
 
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Originally Posted by Paratrooper1n0 View Post

Like I said, it is a different architecture. With a different architecture requires a different style of motherboard to run it.
The same rule can apply to where most P67, H61 (if not all) boards are not able to run Ivy CPU's.
Even if Haswell had 1155 pins instead of 1150, Haswell would not work with Z77 motherboards.
So LGA1150 helps to notify people that the CPU will not run on Z77 boards instead of people being confused if it was LGA1155.

? Most p67 boards don't run Ivy?When did this factoid(not) pop up? headscratch.gifthumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2453441 proof.gif Ivy on p67 board
Most p67 boards will run Ivy Bridge CPUs.
I had 3570K in an H61 board too;with no problems.

False info is false.

Yay! Proof in my favor! smile.gif
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I was waiting on Haswell, but couldn't resist a 3770K for $230 @ Micro Center. Oh well, still a big upgrade over my phenom 955. This chip should hold me well till Skylake/Skymont.

This was pretty much the case for me too. I was so psyched about going from my i7 965EE to Haswell, and skipping over the gen 2 and 3 i7 line ups, but given the lackluster performance increase that Haswell is going to provide people who AREN'T going to be using the built in GPU, I just couldn't pass up a great deal on a 3770K at Microcenter either.
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This was pretty much the case for me too. I was so psyched about going from my i7 965EE to Haswell, and skipping over the gen 2 and 3 i7 line ups, but given the lackluster performance increase that Haswell is going to provide people who AREN'T going to be using the built in GPU, I just couldn't pass up a great deal on a 3770K at Microcenter either.
Why'd you cross that out? It's true: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=551
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