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Originally Posted by Outcasst View Post

Why no virtualization on the K versions?

I NOTICED THE SAME THING. IT ALSO DOESN'T SUPPORT .TXT FILES.


INTEL; DON'T DO THIS TO US!!! PLEASE!!!! NOT EVERYONE USES WORD FILES.

DO NOT SCREW US OVER BY REMOVING FEATURES FROM THE UNLOCKED VERSION OR I PROMISE I WILL GO AMD JUST OUT OF SPITE.
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Originally Posted by Mast3rRoot View Post

As Mentioned before, Intel just wants to make their money, they could assign the pins to the same things if they wanted to... but they don't want to. :/

What are you basing this conclusion on?

i.e. With DDR4, the memory topography changes from fly-by (or T-Tree) to point-to-point. Changes like these may require different pin functions.
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Love people pulling out random numbers.

Just going on the rumors I've read. And I don't think Haswell having at least a 15% performance increase over Sandy Bridge is really pulling out random numbers. No one knows what the actual numbers will be until the chip is out, but it should be at least 15%.
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I NOTICED THE SAME THING. IT ALSO DOESN'T SUPPORT .TXT FILES.
INTEL; DON'T DO THIS TO US!!! PLEASE!!!! NOT EVERYONE USES WORD FILES.
DO NOT SCREW US OVER BY REMOVING FEATURES FROM THE UNLOCKED VERSION OR I PROMISE I WILL GO AMD JUST OUT OF SPITE.

LMAO!! lachen.gif
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Originally Posted by aweir View Post

I NOTICED THE SAME THING. IT ALSO DOESN'T SUPPORT .TXT FILES.
INTEL; DON'T DO THIS TO US!!! PLEASE!!!! NOT EVERYONE USES WORD FILES.
DO NOT SCREW US OVER BY REMOVING FEATURES FROM THE UNLOCKED VERSION OR I PROMISE I WILL GO AMD JUST OUT OF SPITE.

Oh wow.

Intel TXT


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Originally Posted by dizzy4 View Post

I thought the graphics were supposed to be called GT1, GT2 and GT3 rather than something like "HD 3500, HD 4500 and HD 5000"

Its the difference between code name and marketing name. Intel has used GT1/GT2 since Sandy Bridge.
Edited by erunion - 12/11/12 at 12:54pm
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Oh wow.
Intel TXT

srry, the dude was pa-trollin you

And this "upgrade" seems more like just an "efficiency" or intergrated gpu upgrade.
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Thanks for clarifying that. I was about to rip my hair out of Intel's new top of the line processors did not offer virtualization.

Most consumers don't need any sort of hardware virtualization support, even if they virtualize.
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Originally Posted by dizzy4 View Post

I'm probably one of the only people who cares, but why can't intel just give us VT-d (full vPro) on the unlocked chips??!

Minimal demand, plus they can recycle good clock parts that fail VT-d.
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Originally Posted by erunion View Post

Based on?
Haswell brings more components on package, thus requires a different chipset.

Actually, existing chipsets could probably be used. DMI is still there, so one could theoretically attach a P67 to it.

However, it does need a different socket.
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Why wouldn't it? I just feel like reducing it by 5 pins doesn't really do much for anyone but the companies. What makes it so different that it needs less pins?

Totally different power delivery specifications, for one.
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I was under the impression even if did run on 1155 it wouldn't be compatible with the current chipsets

Chipset is almost meaningless, in and of itself. Any CPU with DMI could hypothetically be attached to any DMI based chipset. Same goes for QPI. You could possibly build an LGA-2011 Xeon board and connect an X58 and two Z77s to it.
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The IGP is just good for lower power devices which dont use a GPU. 15% IPC increase is huge. Its it that much it would be impressive. That being said i hope its not a step back in terms of overclocking like IVY. If these CPU can do 5Ghz i am so getting one.
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Choosing the right Intel CPU is becoming more complex.
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All the pad and socket pins have a specific task and are used for specific things.

If they did stick with 1155 pins then they would of had to have designed the internal CPU logic around it which could of resulted in certain parts and logic not being in the most efficient place in the die.

By making a new socket socket it gives Intel and the engineers freedom to put the logic in the most efficient place as possible to reduce motherboard traces and also to reduce the space between logic units in the CPU thus making things as short and fast as possible, then they simply design the socket and pin out to get the best results.

Food for thought, If AMD would design a CPU and then a socket afterwards instead of being restricted to a CPU sockets that remained relatively unchanged for years could they produce a more deficient and better performing CPU? Because personally I think that the most limiting thing with AMD's CPU is not the engineers or budget but rather that socket which when it was conceived was never designed to run 8 core CPU's.
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