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16:10 and even 16:9 aren't truly wide enough for side by side documents

O rly?

    
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post #22 of 53
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O rly?
lol that would entirely depend on your resolution; I could probably fit quite a few side by side documents on an 8k monitor.
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IPS can change as quickly as 6ms, which is fine for 60Hz.

Well I was thinking in terms of the HP which is 12ms G2G on the spec sheet and 17.9ms as measured by prad (and 12.2ms to prad's desired brightness, whatever that may be). Which would amount to quite noticeable ghosting/blurring.

Obviously the optimal case would be short signal lag and short response time. If the HP were to have the Dell's panel the overall "latency" would be 4.8ms (signal lag) + 7.1ms (prad's desired brightness, again) for a total of 11.9ms, well under the 16.67ms frame time.

In all honesty it seems like measuring all this is still somewhat of a tricky subject since even the creator of SMTT can't decide what measurement represents what the end user experiences as lag: http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/specials/inputlag/inputlag-part26.html#Conclusion

I also find it rather puzzling that TFT Central got nearly the same number as prad did on the Dell U2713HM (TFT C: 22.2ms vs Prad: 22.6ms overall latency), yet the wildly different number on the HP ZR2740w (TFT C: 3.6ms vs Prad: 17.0ms overall latency).

Which makes me wonder how much TFT Central's numbers should be trusted.

Unless of course the 22.2ms of the Dell should be compared against prad's signal delay measurement of 15.5ms, which would mean that the SMTT 2.0 has a rather wide margin of error. It would also bring the HP's 3.6ms more in line with prad's 4.8ms.

Either way, I think you are right to trust prad over TFT central when it comes to these numbers. The HP does certainly have a lower signal delay, so I wasn't off on that. The longer pixel response time though would offset the benefit of that somewhat though.
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These ultra-wides are not priced well, but I guess it's because they are new/niche right now. At 2560x1080, that's 2.76M pixels for $700. There are 1440P (3.68M pixels) IPS available $700-$800.
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post #25 of 53
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I also find it rather puzzling that TFT Central got nearly the same number as prad did on the Dell U2713HM (TFT C: 22.2ms vs Prad: 22.6ms overall latency), yet the wildly different number on the HP ZR2740w (TFT C: 3.6ms vs Prad: 17.0ms overall latency).
Which makes me wonder how much TFT Central's numbers should be trusted.
PRAD got something like 10ms on the Dell u2312HM and TFTcentral got 0.6ms
PRAD got 19ms on the Samsung syncmaster 1440p and TFTcentral got something like 30ms

I feel like TFTcentral is doing something wrong. Also, it appears that the Samsung synmaster monitor is the fastest 1440p one out there, and it's still slower than I would like.
post #26 of 53
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PRAD got something like 10ms on the Dell u2312HM and TFTcentral got 0.6ms
PRAD got 19ms on the Samsung syncmaster 1440p and TFTcentral got something like 30ms
I feel like TFTcentral is doing something wrong. Also, it appears that the Samsung synmaster monitor is the fastest 1440p one out there, and it's still slower than I would like.

Yeah, having looked those up just now myself, I've lost all faith in TFT Central's numbers. tongue.gif

I really appreciate now how prad does it, giving both the signal delay and the important part of the pixel response rate.
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post #27 of 53
Wow those bezels! I don't care about 120hz so much, but if the input lag were decent, I would be hankerin' for some 7680x1080 eyefinity, no de-bezeling required.
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post #28 of 53
Cool idea, but I feel price is terrible considering you can get a 30'' 2560x1600 for less
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post #29 of 53
I'm keen to give one a try - for people moving up from a 1080 monitor for gaming and movies it looks like a nice compromise. No need for eyefinity/surround or multiple graphics cards, and should be less taxing on the current GPU's that may struggle at 2560*1440. Enough frame rates to be playable at higher settings.

Yes I'd love a 27" 2560*1440 display or similar if I had the cash to drive it properly with a pair of 680s. If you had quad HD then you'd want to use all the pixels right?

I guess it comes down to preference and style. I play FPS games, flight sim, racing games, watch movies and don't really have enough room for 3 monitors on my desk.

For people using spreadsheets and multiple documents - then multiple displays or higher resolutions make more sense. I have multiple monitors at work and that suits me fine there.

For home - I guess I'm either looking at buying something like this, and getting for the most part playable frame rates with my 18 month old GTX570, or getting something similar to the 2560 resolution panels but not being able to get over 30fps until I upgrade the GPU in six months time. Imagine knowing how awesome a game could look but not being able to play it?

Third option - upgrade the GPU(s) first but then i'm not 'seeing' (as opposed to getting) a big difference for my money.

I'm 40 years old so input lag is much less of an issue than "brain lag" Plus hey then I can rage quit blaming the monitor for my LOFT
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Don't know if this is an update but I was at Fry's today, in the back corner sat the LG 29 monitor... Link

It seems like a novelty to me but I am sure someone will like it. I was underwhelmed with the size TBH. I did not realize these were already on the shelves.
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