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Because its about as tall as my 1440x900 17" screen. Its incredibly squished down. I don't dislike the aspect ratio per se, but the physical size of the monitor. They had it next to the Dell U3011 and it is literally 1/2 as tall in veiwable screen area.

This is what I don't like about modern displays and why I have 2560x1600 display you can actually see more.
 
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Needs 2 things and it will become very popular with gamers:
  1. 120Hz refresh rate
  2. <5ms input lag

Do that and gamers will buy it.
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post #43 of 53

I think this kind of wide screens are just tests for monitors that are even wider

 

I really expect that one day monitors will be surround like.

 

It will be very wide, and will give you thee 5760x1080p resolution natively.

post #44 of 53
I'd considered this sort of aspect ratio on 32"-35" monitors provided they were 2 or 4k pixels tall and had a 120z IPS display. That would be a great upgrade from what I have in 5-10 years time.

At this size and resolution and price though, it's tough to justify vs two korean displays.
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post #45 of 53
Old thread, but still relevant.

A couple thoughts on 21:9. These 29" monitors are as tall as as an 8.5X11" sheet of paper. It is a little over 11" high. Yet, I never hear anyone complain about a sheet of paper not being "tall" enough to read. I really don't see what the problem is. They make scroll wheels for a reason, right? And as far as multitasking, 16:9 is not a viable option because if you do open two windows side by side, you won't have the same horizontal expanse as you do with a 21:9 and the windows will appear to be squished together to make room for both.

IMO 16:9 makes too many tradeoffs and doesn't excel in any one of the two categories of; 1) being widescreen enough to watch movies, and 2) having alot of vertical space to cure your phobia of the scroll wheel. Vertical height is compromised vs. 16:10 to make room for widescreen movies (which can't even be displayed right in the first place). So, while 21:9 might not have the height that users like, at least it excels in one area and doesn't compromise on both.
Edited by aweir - 4/7/14 at 5:27am
post #46 of 53
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Old thread, but still relevant.

A couple thoughts on 21:9. These 29" monitors are as tall as as an 8.5X11" sheet of paper. It is a little over 11" high. Yet, I never hear anyone complain about a sheet of paper not being "tall" enough to read. I really don't see what the problem is. They make scroll wheels for a reason, right? And as far as multitasking, 16:9 is not a viable option because if you do open two windows side by side, you won't have the same horizontal expanse as you do with a 21:9 and the windows will appear to be squished together to make room for both.

IMO 16:9 makes too many tradeoffs and doesn't excel in any one of the two categories of; 1) being widescreen enough to watch movies, and 2) having alot of vertical space to cure your phobia of the scroll wheel. Vertical height is compromised vs. 16:10 to make room for widescreen movies (which can't even be displayed right in the first place). So, while 21:9 might not have the height that users like, at least it excels in one area and doesn't compromise on both.

Well - when talking about productivity then these screens are outright horribly priced. For 700 you can get 3x 23'' DELL IPS ultrasharps plus MST hub to run them from a single displayport. 3x 1080p in portrait are 3240x1920 and you can easily move documents with win + arrow keys between displays. Hell, even better, you can get two 27'' Koerans for ~700 which would be even greater for productivity.

Now for media consumption these screens clearly have their niche as unlike in productivity if you are working with multiple windows with media bezels actually do matter. I think the ultrawide aspect ratio is interesting idea, however, for it to be actually viable the price per pixel should be at least in the same ballpark as higher end 16:9 screens.
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Just going off personal experience with owning a 21:9 for over a year, I can only recommend it for the niche benefit of a full screen wider FOV in games without resorting to a full 3x multimonitor setup. Anyone with a 1920x1080 or 2560x1440/1600 can make a custom resolution, 1920x800 or 2560x1080, and get the exact same FOV just with letterboxing and a smaller physical size.

For a quick comparison, a 29" 21:9 display has a physical size of 26.49" x 11.17", 1920x800 on a comparable 23" would be ~20.99" x 8.85" and 2560x1080 on a 27" would be 23.49" x 9.90". So basically the only benefit of the 21:9 29" is its larger physical size which (distance kept equal) fills more of the eye's field of view thus providing an arguably more immersive experience than the smaller letterboxed experience of the 23" and 27" at this aspect ratio. And arguably a 3x 16:9 setup is even more immersive, bezels aside.

For desktop productivity a 27" 2560x1440 or 30"2560x1600 has the same width but more height, so they are obviously the better choice there.

For movies in scope format (2.35-2.4:1 aspect ratio), it's not brilliant either since Blu-ray max resolution is 1920x1080 which means a movie shot in scope is going to be somewhere in the 800-820 vertical pixel range (Ben-Hur notwithstanding). So to fill the screen the movie would need to be upscaled by ~33%, which is never a great option. Until a disc/digital format arrives that gives sufficient vertical resolution to scope films it's better watching them letterboxed on a 1920x1080 HDTV or monitor with a 1:1 pixel mapping.

Honestly, a lot is lost, and not much is gained, but when a game does 21:9 right it's pretty friggin' epic.
Edited by zinfinion - 4/7/14 at 3:49pm
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post #49 of 53
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For desktop productivity a 27" 2560x1440 or 30"2560x1600 has the same width but more height, so they are obviously the better choice there.
So, does a 2560X1440 have a smaller dot pitch and better image quality if there is the same amount of horizontal pixels in a thinner screen?

It seems like a lose-lose situation. Either you have 1920 width with no up scaling and letterbox, or 2560 21:9 and up scaling, without a letterbox. The only way to watch a movie is on a giant 1080p HDTV, and just hope you don't have 20/20 vision.
Edited by aweir - 4/8/14 at 4:31am
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Until a disc/digital format arrives that gives sufficient vertical resolution to scope films it's better watching them letterboxed on a 1920x1080 HDTV or monitor with a 1:1 pixel mapping.

FYI the Movie industry is looking into a separate stream for this purpose with a 1:1 version of 2:35:1 ratio on the Disc in 5k.
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