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Any reason you suggest the E3000 over the other ones mentioned?
And range is pretty important, so that might be a big deal. I don't want to downgrade on range.

Just from experience. I run one right now, and never really had issues. Does QOS for me and B/W Limiter just fine.
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Avoid the E3000 like the plague. Its got overheating problems.
Get any of the EA series and you should be good.

Fortunately I must be one of the lucky ones. I never really had any overheating issues with it. Range is what kills it for me, It was fine when I lived in an apartment but it's horrible now that I moved into a two story house.
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The difference shouldn't be that noticeable. The thing I would look into now is Customer and after sales service.
The RT-N66U is not a bad option but neither is the EA4500.

Yeah, it's hard to really tell. Been reading the smallnetbuilder site all day and it seems like it goes back and forth with the Asus usually winning.

Honestly have never had to deal with either companies CS so I can't really say which one I should go with. I know Asus has been kind of downhill on the computer component side but I know absolutely nothing about linksys either.

Honestly, the only reason I am leaning toward the Asus at this point is because of the external antennas.
 
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Just from experience. I run one right now, and never really had issues. Does QOS for me and B/W Limiter just fine.
Fortunately I must be one of the lucky ones. I never really had any overheating issues with it. Range is what kills it for me, It was fine when I lived in an apartment but it's horrible now that I moved into a two story house.

My brother's overheated like crazy. RMA'd it but still the same (2 bad ones in a row?!) .I literally opened it up and kept it. Maybe I was unlucky like some people who got a unit like that. redface.gif

I ended up getting a E1200 for him tongue.gif
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Yeah, it's hard to really tell. Been reading the smallnetbuilder site all day and it seems like it goes back and forth with the Asus usually winning.
Honestly have never had to deal with either companies CS so I can't really say which one I should go with. I know Asus has been kind of downhill on the computer component side but I know absolutely nothing about linksys either.
Honestly, the only reason I am leaning toward the Asus at this point is because of the external antennas.

Yeah you should consider that. Where will you be placing your router? Somewhere near the middle of the house? Or a faraway corner?
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Yeah you should consider that. Where will you be placing your router? Somewhere near the middle of the house? Or a faraway corner?

Pretty much will have to be in the center of the house. While the main portion of usage is within that 25ft ball, there are some spots that would be really nice to be able to get wireless to. Ideally I'd like to be able to get service out in our shop but I'd likely need a bridge to make that happen, but I figure being able to have some control on directionality might help.

Then in the Asus' review it does seem to outperform the EA4500 (apparently the E4200v2 relabled and different processor) but who knows. The EA4500 is generally only mentioned on that sites forums and some have good experiences some don't. I like Linksys but the external antennas are hard to pass up, especially with the performance in other aspects being so promising. I've just never had a Asus router before, lol.
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As good as the RT-66U is, our wireless performance results once again show that no router is good in every mode that we test. But that said, the Dark Knight clearly outperformed both the NETGEAR WNDR4500 and Cisco Linksys E4200V2 in most of our two and three-stream tests. And it's the only router in recent memory able to reach to our worst-case/lowest-signal test location on the 5 GHz band, albeit with barely-usable throughput. Still, this is an accomplishment in itself.

If you're going to spend close to $200 for a wireless router, you should get a lot for your money. The Dark Knight seems to deliver wireless performance to justify its high price and has routing speed fast enough to handle any service a consumer is likely to have, even our friends in Europe and Asia.

But other aspects of the product are a work in progress. Documentation is poor and incomplete, with no mention of many of the product's key features like IPv6, USB Download Master, VPN server and 3G backup WAN support. And the non-functional DLNA server isn't bringing smiles to some buyer's faces. So if you decide to take the plunge, be prepared to wait for both firmware updates and better documentation to make the Dark Knight all that I'm sure ASUS wants it to be.
 
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Then I think you should get the RT-66U as you want range to be a big factor also. ASUS have a good rep so it shouldn't be a problem.

Since you've got a big budget, you should get as much bang for the buck out of the router.

EDIT- Theres a new EA6500.
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Then I think you should get the RT-66U as you want range to be a big factor also. ASUS have a good rep so it shouldn't be a problem.
Since you've got a big budget, you should get as much bang for the buck out of the router.
EDIT- Theres a new EA6500.

Yeah, saw the EA6500 as well. I like that it has 3 seperate antennas for each band but still internal. It doesn't seem like there is any real gains from it given the $50 price hike. It's nice that it's AC but I don't have any AC stuff so I don't really need it. Not yet anyways.








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Closing Thoughts

Our testing so far shows that the EA6500 has high routing throughput with plenty of simultaneous connections. But its storage filecopy performance doesn't set any records, especially if you write to it with a FAT32 formatted drive attached.

Since we don't test with a standard AC client, it's tough to say that one product is really better than another. But it seems like the ASUS RT-AC66U still holds the crown for best overall draft 11ac performance, especially as signal levels drop. With a strong signal, however, the EA6500 holds its own against not only the ASUS, but the Buffalo and NETGEAR AC routers too.

Part 2 of the review has the rest of the wireless test results so that you can decide if the EA6500 is the draft 11ac router for you.


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Why I didn't consider the AC66U:
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Buyers in search of a high performance wireless router should stick with the RT-N66U Dark Knight vs. the RT-AC66U, at least for now. Given the reports in the SNB Forums, it looks like the AC66's firmware is not yet stable, with some features disappearing to be worked on and others partially functioning. So if you are expecting smooth sailing with the AC66U, you may be unpleasantly surprised.

Even if you're willing to pay for the privilege of helping ASUS debug its product, you are unlikely to be rewarded with higher performance. For most uses, i.e. with two-stream clients, you'll get essentially the same performance in the 2.4 GHz band and, at least with the firmware used, better results in 5 GHz with the Dark Knight.

If you are one of the few folks with three-stream N devices, I wouldn't let the high 40MHz mode 2.4 GHz uplink results influence your choice. First, you shouldn't be using 40 MHz mode in the overcrowded 2.4 GHz band anyway and second, I think the abnormally high 40 MHz mode uplink results are a fluke.

As I've said before, there is no reason to jump on the draft 11ac bandwagon at this point in hope of improving speed or range for two or three-stream N devices, because 11ac brings nothing to the table for them. 11ac should (at least that's the plan) improve throughput for single-stream N devices. But new chipsets supporting draft 11ac need to be baked into smart phones, tablets and other mobile thingies before that dream becomes reality.

If you're looking to "future proof" your wireless router choice, the current crop of draft 11ac routers isn't a good choice given their first-generation draft 11ac chipset. Router-side devices will probably benefit from a move to second (or third) generation 11ac chipsets, which hopefully will be designed to the final standard and include multi-user MIMO support.

The only viable argument for buying the RT-AC66U, or any other draft 11ac router, is to buy two and use one as a bridge to form a high-bandwidth 5 GHz link to a HD media player. But even there, I think using a three-stream N router and less-expensive bridge like the ASUS EA-N66 or TRENDnet TEW-640MB will get you to the same place and let you save your money for the inevitable move to an 11ac router, once the standard is released and the dust settles.

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Yeah not worth the extra $50.

So the Dark Knight it is? biggrin.gif
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Yeah not worth the extra $50.
So the Dark Knight it is? biggrin.gif

I think so. haha. Yay.

Thank you for all of your help. That link was a wealth of information. thumb.gif
 
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lol. Hardly set it and forget it...

It is set it and forget it.... just the initial set stage may take a few hours. tongue.gif
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