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Hi guys. I built a rig a while back with an Intel i7 3930K Sandy Bridge 6 Core processor. I bought the Intel liquid cooled heatsink to go with it. Right now, my computer is idling at around 70C (core temps), and peaks up near 90. I'm afraid to even use my computer right now. I want to try diagnosing the problem, and want some input from the experts. I'm leaning towards the heatsink being bad, but before I replace it I need to clear up my other worries.

First off, I cleaned and resat the heatsink using Arctic 5 paste. That didn't help.
Is it possible the sensors are failing? I've used 3 different probe programs, and they all read it being pretty hot.
I have 5 HDDs in my case, and 3 externals. Could this be a problem?
I have one fan on the bottom of the case (Coolmaster Cosmos) as intake, and two on top blowing out., as well as the CPU cooler fan attached to the back, blowing out. Do I need more fans? Would they make that much of a difference?
I have an nVidia Quadro 4000 GFX card. It is running uncomfortably hot as well. Hotter than the CPU at this point, and I'm not even rendering anything. Just running Firefox.
My MoBo is an Asus p9x79 Pro. Have you ever heard of these being overloaded or their sensors going bad and giving erroneous high readings?

OK, last question, and I appreciate your patience to a man who is in over his head. I installed Core Temp and it shows me the core temperatures are right around 68. A program called Speccy tells me the the CPU is at 69 (no discrepancy there), but Asus Probe II tells me I'm at 58. That's a 10 degree difference. Why would that happen? Aren't they all gathering data from the same sensors?

I'd really love some insight here before I get fed up and buy a new heatsink and case only to find out that was never the problem....

Thank you all!
post #2 of 19
Most probably that you are on stock (not OC yet) and first what you should do is lover your VCore voltage (now is on auto)
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I have an nVidia Quadro 4000 GFX card.
Normal working temperature for GPU at load is around 70°C
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Arctic 5 paste.
Need some working hours to start reacting properly (but this is not reason for this 80°C)

Did you take down plastic protection from WC head (on the bottom there is originally tinny plastic sheet which is sometimes hard to see)
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post #4 of 19
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Originally Posted by kope View Post

Most probably that you are on stock (not OC yet) and first what you should do is lover your VCore voltage (now is on auto)

You're right, it isn't OC'd yet. I'd hoped to try, but I have to get past this first. I'll downclock for now, like you suggested.

Also, I'm sure the plastic is removed from my WC block.
post #5 of 19
Make sure that you fill up this form so we can know what you have.
For now - don't panic your system is well protected and it will shout down if overheating happens.thumb.gif
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post #6 of 19
It shouldn't be that hot. Check to be sure your heatsink is seated correctly, and that the pump is running correctly (make sure it is connected to either a molex plug via an adapter or to a full speed motherboard header).

You can discount the Asus Probe reading (it's probably a reading from the socket instead of the on-die sensor), go with either RealTemp or CoreTemp.
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

It shouldn't be that hot. Check to be sure your heatsink is seated correctly, and that the pump is running correctly (make sure it is connected to either a molex plug via an adapter or to a full speed motherboard header).
You can discount the Asus Probe reading (it's probably a reading from the socket instead of the on-die sensor), go with either RealTemp or CoreTemp.
Yes it can ! with low range coolers and on the stock plus high ambient temperature !
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post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by kope View Post

Yes it can ! with low range coolers and on the stock plus high ambient temperature !

The cooler he is running is not low range, and it shouldn't be 70C at idle no matter what. Unless he's running it in the Sahara, that's too hot.
post #9 of 19
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The cooler he is running is not low range, and it shouldn't be 70C at idle no matter what. Unless he's running it in the Sahara, that's too hot.
For this baby I73930k it is a bad choice (TDP 130W) - also you should know that "out of the box this system can run at default (stock) VCore more than 1.4V which is madness and can be a reason for his trouble.
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post #10 of 19
I've never used one, but it was designed for LGA 2011 CPUs, and no way is 70C a reasonable idle temp for any CPU. Unless he did something in the BIOS, the chip won't be running at 1.4V when idling.

Here's a review of the Intel cooler - notice the 30C idle temps.
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/107147-intels-liquid-cpu-cooler-is-water-worth-the-cost/2
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