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Why in the world is that funny?
Okay guys, new rule. We can't post in GPU launch threads on launch day because none of us have the new cards.

You arguing the most. You dont even have the card. I dont know what you want to prove. Amd user will come here and tell that their cards is smooth as hell and then nvidia user will do the same. I will not read a review to justify my purchase or not. The last week its the new hipster quote. "Why amd stutter so much". So after a review we realized that our cards stutters..yeah..If you see the video both cards stutters so it doesnt matter both companies must fix it.
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You arguing the most. You dont even have the card. I dont know what you want to prove. Amd user will come here and tell that their cards is smooth as hell and then nvidia user will do the same. I will not read a review to justify my purchase or not. The last week its the new hipster quote. "Why amd stutter so much". So after a review we realized that our cards stutters..yeah..If you see the video both cards stutters so it doesnt matter both companies must fix it.
I don't need to have the card or the games to be able to criticize the stupid arguments that are being tossed around here.
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If you had passable reading comprehension skills, you'd know that my post addressed that concern.

you never answered anything (which post), i suppose everyone was right when they said you are ? dodger lol
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I don't need to have the card or the games to be able to criticize the stupid arguments that are being tossed around here.

You dont only criticize the stupid ones but you criticize everything because its against your opinion. Nothing else to say bye
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homeless..... God, how biased can you get? Shut up, and get your garbage out of here.

Quit being a keyboard gangster and answer the question why AMD is suddenly losing at high resolution? nvidia gets stomped from top to bottom in high resolution, even the 690 comes to its knees sometimes vs a single card, and here we have a poxy 660ti beating a mighty 7950 lol wut

How many drivers has Nvidia released between the two reviews you're comparing?

P.S.- homeles is correcting people jumping to irrational conclusions. I don't think he's the one in the wrong...
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wow I don`t think you can read either..
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While I admit that these results are a bit strange, you should keep in mind that different scenarios can yield different results. Unless you use the exact same scene, benchmarks will not necessarily be comparable. Maybe techreport picked a worst case scenario for AMD by chance, who knows?

Do we even know what scenes techspot and hardocp are benchmarking? Indoor, outdoor?

Seriously, is that the best you can do? This qoute above is your answer to the high res benchmarks that i asked you about (see spoiler for the question)... again.. how is the poxy 660ti beating the 7950 in high res when the 680 couldn't? no amount of outside scene is going to change that.. so stop with your garbage and go away or.READ THE SPOILER AND TRY AGAIN
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
You seem to also have missed some of the points the members here are providing. Disregarding the frame time graphs, look at the Frames per Second metric. While it is true that TR's specific testing is unique, the Frames per Second measurement should be in line in terms of actual videocard standing compared to other reviews. You shouldn't end up with something like GTX660Ti beating HD7970 on average or you would know something has gone terribly wrong in the review. Let's take a look at actual frame rates in at least 2 games where things are way off.

When I look at Medal of Honor Warfighter testing, the actual frames per second are faster for GTX660Ti at

*gasp* 2560x1440 max. Then I go and check how the actual FPS compares in other reviews:

2560x1600 7950 boost beats GTX670:
http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/603/bench/MOHWF_03.png

2560x1600 7950 boost ties GTX670:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/medal_of_honor_warfighter_graphics_vga_performance_review,6.html

Doesn't it strike you odd how GTX660Ti is beating a 950mhz HD7950 in frames per second at high resolution in

MoH:W when no one else reports this?

What about Skyrim at high resolutions?

HD7950 boost is 44% faster in this review with AA:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_7950_X2_Boost/22.html

In this review HD7950 boost beats GTX680 and is much faster than 660Ti:
http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page9.html

Same in this review:
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2012/test-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660/23/

In TR's review, GTX660Ti beats HD7950 in Skyrim and everyone else shows it beating GTX680 in Skyrim and

thrashing GTX660Ti. You can ask Skyrim players and they will tell you at 2560x1440 or 2560x1600, HD7950 is

faster than GTX680 in this game.

I think you are starting to get the picture that even the framerates make no sense in some of those games

compared to what everyone else reports. You have to ask yourself if the testing is valid or something else

is the problem. The results are too much different from users who own the cards and countless other

professional reviewers.

Also, this should have struck you as a red flag right away - HD7950/7970/7970Ghz have been faster in games at high resolutions than GTX600 series. HD7950 boost is actually 22% faster than GTX660Ti at 2560x1600 on average across more twice as many tested games in other reviews. Look how recent this review is too:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_7950_X2_Boost/28.html

Don't you find it odd that HD7950 boost goes from 22% faster at high rez vs. GTX660Ti to way slower in TR's

review? That doesn't strike you as extremely unusual, especially when GTX660Ti gets a win in Skyrim, a game

that are completely dominated by AMD at high resolutions?

Edited by badrapper - 12/13/12 at 5:59pm
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I've opened up a thread on the official AMD support forums, maybe we can get an answer at some point.

http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=443&threadid=162809&enterthread=y
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wow I don`t think you can read either..
Seriously, is that the best you can do? This qoute above is your answer to the high res benchmarks that i asked you about (see spoiler for the question)... again.. how is the poxy 660ti beating the 7950 in high res when the 680 couldn't? no amount of outside scene is going to change that.. so stop with your garbage and go away or.READ THE SPOILER AND TRY AGAIN
Yes, a change in environment can have rather drastic results in what's being rendered. Do you even play video games?

Let me say this again:

Okay guys, new rule. We can't post in GPU launch threads on launch day because none of us have the new cards.
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At this rate, you guys are going to get this thread locked before I get my card sometime tomorrow.

Please don't do that. I want to actually contribute to this thread, not watch you guys argue and bite each other's heads off. rolleyes.gif
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At this rate, you guys are going to get this thread locked before I get my card sometime tomorrow.
Please don't do that. I want to actually contribute to this thread, not watch you guys argue and bite each other's heads off. rolleyes.gif

No offense, but I wouldn't trust any conclusions you come up with.

I can predict your conclusion now: The 7870 is much better than the 660TI.

At this point, the only thing that's going to settle this is to have other 3rd party reviews do similar testing methodologies.
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