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You don't see it because you've a Nvidia diehard. Slamming the other guy is a good thing to you. In other words you're not objective about it. Hell you haven't read anythign I wrote with critical thinking cap on.

And you're the only objective guy on the Internet, right?

Their results are strange, but they test using a method no one else uses, so I'm rational enough to believe that different methods might result in different results. Are you not? Why does it immediately have to be a conspiracy, and that TR is out to get AMD? They tested twice and got the same results both time (and the testing back in August also showed higher latency for the 7950). That doesn't make your critical thinking cap interested that maybe there is some fire in the smoke? You don't think that maybe this might play into the "smoothness" issue with Crossfire that HardOCP talks about in every Crossfire review?

You assume I'm an Nvidia diehard because I bought the fastest card available when I was ready to upgrade?


I'm certainly not delusional.


You don't think this test is a reaction to the first one? Like hey guys, this is for reals in case you didn't believe the first one. Right. Their intent is in their tone.


What's even more hilarious is the guy is probably sitting back raking in the hits while he slams AMD, two birds one stone.


*I wanna show you how this guy writes.

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The question you have to ask is what matters to you. Do you want the graphics card that scores best in the FPS beauty pageant, or do you want that one that gives you the smoothest gaming experience when you fire up a freshly downloaded game this Christmas? If you just want bragging rights, by all means, choose the Radeon HD 7950. If you're looking for the friction-free fluidity that only comes from consistently quick frame delivery, though, our recommendation remains the GeForce GTX 660 Ti.


Over the top statements like this are polarizing. It forces ppl to side one way or the other. You have no choice but to choose, you're either a braggart and shallow or you've seen the light. It's a total troll fest. That's an editorial not a review.

Btw, do you not realize that he's putting everyone who bought an AMD card down, in a rather not nice way? Seriously? Don't tell you are blind to this?
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I'm certainly not delusional. You don't think this test is a reaction to the first one? Like hey guys, this is for reals in case you didn't believe the first one. Right. Their intent is in their tone. What's even more hilarious is the guy is probably sitting back raking in the hits while he slams AMD, two birds one stone.

well said. Its not techreport's frametimes but even their fps numbers which are off the map. there is not a single review where a GTX 660 Ti does not get hammered by HD 7950 boost in MOH Warfighter. Same in skyrim. They post data showing GTX 660 Ti with higher fps than HD 7950 boost , and to top it off at 2560 X 1600. So everybody else who is reviewing and getting higher fps on HD 7950 boost is not right i guess. rolleyes.gif
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I wanna show you how this guy writes.
Over the top statements like this are polarizing. It forces ppl to side one way or the other. You have no choice but to choose, you're either a braggart and shallow or you've seen the light. It's a total troll fest. That's an editorial not a review.

yeah. the tone of that article clearly reveals the author's intent. its not objectivity . its vindiction. thumb.gif
Edited by raghu78 - 12/12/12 at 12:28am
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It's true youll notice more stutter on AMD cards like in GTA 4 and other games
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I'm certainly not delusional.
You don't think this test is a reaction to the first one? Like hey guys, this is for reals in case you didn't believe the first one. Right. Their intent is in their tone.
What's even more hilarious is the guy is probably sitting back raking in the hits while he slams AMD, two birds one stone.
*I wanna show you how this guy writes.
Over the top statements like this are polarizing. It forces ppl to side one way or the other. You have no choice but to choose, you're either a braggart and shallow or you've seen the light. It's a total troll fest. That's an editorial not a review.
Btw, do you not realize that he's putting everyone who bought an AMD card down, in a rather not nice way? Seriously? Don't tell you are blind to this?
Oh god not this again.

Oh god not this again

By the way, Thanks for Bolding it, maybe some people will notice the sheer middle finger metaphor of words he uses.

Also, he should have changed the 7950 that he had with another one just in case that one had something wrong.

He should have also tested the 660ti on windows 7 aswell (because thats how experiments work)

He should have Overclocked and seen frame latency then(im curious if anything changes ex: does the latency become more unstable when overclocked? does it actually decrease?)

Otherwise /brace yourselves for an other thread of flamewars.
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How do you expect to critique the article without clicking on it? What i want to see from this site is the 7950 and 660Ti reference cards tested (at AMD and Nvidia's specs) and then an OC'd 7950 and OC'd 660ti at their average Highest OC capabilities.

Heck i'd be happier if they bought the 680 and 7970 in for a rematch, their testing method is pretty unique and i want to see how the top guns run, all their prior articles have shown the GTX570 performing much worse than the GTX580 in frame times and the 6950 performing much worse than the 6970 so it seems like the Flagship cards (which are obviously faster) deal with this frame time stuff much better than the slightly cut down versions.
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I'm certainly not delusional.
You don't think this test is a reaction to the first one? Like hey guys, this is for reals in case you didn't believe the first one. Right. Their intent is in their tone.
What's even more hilarious is the guy is probably sitting back raking in the hits while he slams AMD, two birds one stone.
*I wanna show you how this guy writes.
Over the top statements like this are polarizing. It forces ppl to side one way or the other. You have no choice but to choose, you're either a braggart and shallow or you've seen the light. It's a total troll fest. That's an editorial not a review.
Btw, do you not realize that he's putting everyone who bought an AMD card down, in a rather not nice way? Seriously? Don't tell you are blind to this?

I'll agree that his wording was ill-advised, but do you honestly think they sat down and decided to purposely skew the results to make AMD look bad? That no one would see those results and then do some similar testing? And how would they even go about causing latency? Do you think they sat down with the data set and manipulated the data line by line? I'm honestly curious for your explanation of how they got these results, that isn't "because they are biased".

You've already made up your mind that they have something against AMD, and will use their website to further that agenda, to the point that you aren't even willing to consider any other possibility. Your immediate reasoning for why they did the re-test isn't because they want to see if they can replicate the results on Win 7 (since that was the big change they made this time around) but rather that they did it simply to bolster their fake claims against AMD? And you don't think that is bias on your part?

If you have no interest in discussing the article, or their methods, or the results, or even reading it, then why are you posting here?
Edited by Forceman - 12/12/12 at 1:18am
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I'm a tad confused. So 6 months ago (Give or take) the 7950 was dominant over the 660Ti. Most reviews to this day show that is still the same, but then Tech Report did a review last week showing that the opposite and then a follow up showing backing it up? Not saying it's wrong but how does it suddenly change outside of drivers? And this is just from what I can remember, probably got a fact or two wrong.

I'm actually considering upgrading my 6970 at the moment and was considering these two options thinking.gif
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Another article pointing out lag you'll never notice...
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I won't outright dismiss this methodology but I would like some other sites to weigh in, sites like Anandtech and Guru3d. Hopefully they will say what they think of these methods.

Until that time I'll stick with the card with the best FPS.
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Maybe AMD accidentally caused some problems with the new drivers.

Or maybe, just maybe, it's a beta release biggrin.gif
   
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