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Originally Posted by HeadlessKnight View Post

I can't believe it is this bad. Unless HD 7950 users are blind or don't notice the slowdowns at all.

Or maybe it isn't as evident as the graphs make it out to be.

Theoretically I should be noticing a weird input lag going from TN to IPS, but in the real world I did not. And I've got between lag and response time a delay of about 25ms.


Sometimes we give too importance to things that don't deserve it. That's why I consider these tests of little relevance until somebody else is able to test them too and I can contrast, the same way I'd consider some framerate tests irrelevant if there's no info where I can contrast them.
   
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What lag? I have no idea what these ******* are talking about. Believe it or not, i bought an ati card a few years ago, promised myself never to try ATI again.

Then when it was time to buy the 660ti , i saw that the 7950 boost is doing better, with the newer drivers giving it even more of an appealing look, especially when it's time to overclock. So I granted AMD a second chance. I do not regret giving them their chance. Here the price/performance ratio in my country i've got to give it to the 7950. So my choice was obvious. The only game in which i noticed stutter was in Far cry 3, but i don't really blame that on AMD. . Everything else runs smoothly.

This all seems like: "buy an nvidia card this christmas cause AMD sucks"

edit: I just read through what the OP posted a second time. Come on, they're clearly nvidia fan boys. Can't tell me they aren't bashing
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The question you have to ask is what matters to you. Do you want the graphics card that scores best in the FPS beauty pageant, or do you want that one that gives you the smoothest gaming experience when you fire up a freshly downloaded game this Christmas? If you just want bragging rights, by all means, choose the Radeon HD 7950. If you're looking for the friction-free fluidity that only comes from consistently quick frame delivery, though, our recommendation remains the GeForce GTX 660 Ti.

Yeah, right! Okay...
Edited by Shadeh - 12/12/12 at 4:36am
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Changing from AMD to nVidia did result in smoother gameplay for me. Now it is butter-smooth in every game I play, while with AMD I had micro-stutter in some games.
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I am running 7970 crossfire on 12.11 beta 11 with the latest cap... I get no stuttering on any of the titles mentioned, the only time I have trouble is if I forget to turn off V-sync or if I dont use triple buffering. Other then that my cards are stutter free. my guess for this is that I always use the guide on OCN to remove old drivers (from registry etc) before installing something new.
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ITT: Trolls talking about a troll article.
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errr...

 

Because all of those who have a 7950... ran out and bought Window8 for gamming..?   doh.gif

 

 

/endthread

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I come to claim the answer, but first let me tease you all a little bit. Let's check the latencies that TR editor is so ridiculous to dismiss of bias:
< the new review that sucks. 31ms? What! That is twice longer than before!
< the old review that is "proper".

The cause you ask? Well, check this review in between > http://www.behardware.com/articles/881-8/conclusion.html
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Graphics cards:
11.88% for the Sapphire Radeon HD 6770 1 GB (11189-10-20G)
7.62% for the Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 OC Edition 3 GB (11197-01-40G)
6.75% for the Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 OC Edition 2 GB (11199-03-20G)
6.06% for the ASUS ENGT520 SL/DI/1GD3/V2(LP)
5.07% for the Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3 GB (21197-00-40G)
They just picked the worst brand to generalize in the name of 7950; one that had reduced current capacitance designs which in fact had failed AMD Reference guidelines and has resulted in the 7870 BSOD breakout that troubled 7% of their customers.
Now check the brands of 7950 are sampled in the uncontested review: AMD reference and MSI. I have purchaced these brand designs with good conscience.

Speculating on how an AMD software engineer would respond to a query upon this subject, even I would consider handing the phone to a PR representative and staying in denial. Sapphire is one major OEM distributor for AMD that cannot be severed in their current market coverage model.
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errr...

Because all of those who have a 7950... ran out and bought Window8 for gamming..?   doh.gif


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didnt you read the article ? its not windows 8. the frame latencies are just as bad even in windows 7 as well.
    
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Hmmm.... this new study just seems to add additional evidence to a hypothesis that I would be eager to test. First off, frame latency IS more important than raw FPS in a game. Comparing my GTX 260m vs my friend's GTX 460 SLI both @ 1080, my 260m looks smoother in Just Cause 2. I'm pulling between 25 and 30 fps and he's usually in the ballpark of 70+ both running it on high settings. But we both agree that mine look SO much smoother because of the stutter caused in his SLI setup.

If AMD's single card solutions are introducing the kind of frame latency that an SLI setup causes.... eek.gif

Speculation: The AMD 12.11 drivers cause a very nice increase in the number of frames cranked out the pipeline as measured in average fps and things like Unigine Heaven. However, they do so at the cost of increased frame latency and inconsistency of frame times. AMD is alright with this because average framerate is the go-to for review sites even though it is not indicative of true smoothness.

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No problems w/ my 7950's & Win8. Been using it for ~7 days now and it's just as good as Win7 imo. thumb.gif
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