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Looking for some decent headphones available in Europe (and soundcard/ dac if you guys think it would be really worth it).

1. Budget: €100 (+ 50, +100 if you really need to). (Really not a budget type of guy wink.gif , I just want something that'll last me a while and is comfortable to wear)

2. Music taste: Extremely varied, little to no modern pop music / electronic / dubstep whatever they call it. Rock, classical, vocal, "metal", blues, jazz, ballads .... Good music in general? I really don't know all the genres.

3. Perks: No idea, I want a good all-around headphone, if that means buying a DAC/ soundcard, then so be it. I game but I'm of sufficient skill level that I don't even need sound to do well, ergo gaming is completely irrelevant. I don't listen to "BOOM BOOM BOOM" music either so don't need insane bass either. I did find my brother's PC350 (sennheiser) to be rather flat so a bit more bass than that would be preferred.

4. Products I have and will use: Onboard sound (Realtek ALC898), no other fancy things. Not sure if it was worth it to buy a soundcard and without a good headphone it would have been wasted on the G35 (USB rolleyes.gif) and my Z2300 speakers (got them from my brother, I'm not a logitech fanboy, in fact I kind of hate Logitech actually)

5. Usage: Will be used in front of the PC and TV for music, movies and gaming (as stated previously: completely irrelevant though). I would really like them to be comfortable. If they could drown out background noise that would be great too but I really don't need those special "anti background noise" headphones though.

6. Country: Belgium. I suppose the best site to check for products would be beslist.be / beslist.nl (yes it's all dutch but there's really only 1 field (next to the orange button "ZOEK" (= search) where you have to enter the product you need to find and then you just press enter, it'll show all the products that somewhat match and show the cheapest prices). You could also use hardware.info to check availability and pricing . I have no problems ordering from Dutch shops at all, they're usually cheaper and shipping isn't too bad.

Thanks in advance

PS: Quick question: thinking of buying an Asus Xonar DG for my brother since I read it has a fairly decent headphone amp (at least decent enough to drive his sennheiser PC350) and delivers pretty much the same sound quality as the DX but only in stereo? True or not?

EDIT: Does Sony have good headphones? My parents are going to buy a Sony TV soon and perhaps they might get a good deal on some headphones as a dealbreaker ...

EDIT2: Which review sites are trustworthy in terms of sound equipment? When I bought the G35 it got good reviews and when I look back at it now I can't help but wonder: The *beep* where they smoking? So yea, over the years I have lost a lot of faith in review sites, especially with peripherals.

EDIT3:
Decided on the Sennheiser HD 598

EDIT 4:
They're BRILLIANT ! Amazing iin comparison to my G35 / Z2300 ....
Edited by Bloitz - 12/25/12 at 10:45am
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If you're going to blow 100 euro's on some headphones, I think that's pretty much equal in GBP. You might wanna try and get some "ultrasone Pro 550" however I do believe they are slightly out of your budget, but they are brilliant headphones.

As for the sound card, most onboard sound cards today do a pretty decent job already, since you're spending a good amount on headphones yes, discrete would be handy.

I'd have a look at the Xonar DX would be more than you'll need IMHO
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If you're going to blow 100 euro's on some headphones, I think that's pretty much equal in GBP. You might wanna try and get some "ultrasone Pro 550" however I do believe they are slightly out of your budget, but they are brilliant headphones.
As for the sound card, most onboard sound cards today do a pretty decent job already, since you're spending a good amount on headphones yes, discrete would be handy.
I'd have a look at the Xonar DX would be more than you'll need IMHO

I feared as much about the sound card. Do you know if the thing about the DG delivering the same sound quality as the DX in stereo mode is true (see my PS) ?
Is the D2 any good still? I can see one second-hand... It's a pretty old card but then again, I don't think there's a lot of new technological advances in the audio business .

In regards to the Ultrasone Pro 550: Quite a hefty price (runs around € 200) but if it's worth it then I'll definitely consider it. It's not like these things age like other hardware does so I wouldn't mind spending that kind of dough on something really good (hence why my budget is very open) .

In terms of GBP / euro I think it's about 1.2 something ratio IIRC? Not sure how high the taxes like VAT are in GB though.
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I think it might be tax that's ruining it for you then.... Not sure though but I thought it was about the same.

As for the sound card either of those will be fine to run headphones mate, even the D2 whilst old is still a good card. One of my mates is still rocking a audigy 2 zs gold card for his audio and that' working fine after 10 years. Old doesn't mean bad...

Oh as for sony headphones, overpriced crap, you're paying for the name, go with sennheiser before you go with those. Even their TV's whilst nice, are overpriced. You'd be better off with a samsung or LG.

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Oh as for sony headphones, overpriced crap, you're paying for the name, go with sennheiser before you go with those. Even their TV's whilst nice, are overpriced. You'd be better off with a samsung or LG.
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Yea I know Sony is overpriced (laptops, ereaders and apparently their headphones as well) but their TV's are actually very decent and far from overpriced ...
I compared them directly and they were pretty much equal in image quality. (55"HX850 vs 55" Samsung 8000 series something) . Samsung was about € 1000 more . Quite a lot just for being able to talk to your TV ...
For that €1000 extra you'll be able to get a HX950 from Sony soon. It'll feature a true full LED backlit panel (still not a "LED TV" as Samsung Marekting likes to call them). Samsung also has a way of playing with their specs (1000 Hz refresh rate? rolleyes.gif ) . Nevertheless, I have a samsung smartphone, SSD and monitor that all work flawlessly so far so they do make good products.

Anyways, completely off-topic but I hate to see people generalize a brand. (And since I'm a hypocrite it's okay for me to not want LG because I haven't had good experiences in the past (couple of monitors that never worked as good as the others I have had, scaling issues, flickering, generally shorter life) smile.gif)
Edited by Bloitz - 12/12/12 at 3:52am
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Ah,

Well it's swings and roundabouts mate... I never said it wasn't a good telly, not that at all, it's just rather expensive sometimes for what it is.

But either way, yeah your audio issue is resolved or? I can get you a few more cheaper options if you want... Just don't even consider the beats headphones... Oh actually there are some nice skullcandy ones out there...
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Well it's swings and roundabouts mate... I never said it wasn't a good telly, not that at all, it's just rather expensive sometimes for what it is.
But either way, yeah your audio issue is resolved or? I can get you a few more cheaper options if you want... Just don't even consider the beats headphones... Oh actually there are some nice skullcandy ones out there...

Well, more options is always better, could do with some cheaper options as well. I'm not going to buy them right away. Going to read up on technical stuff a bit as well so I'm well-informed before pulling the trigger. The main problem is: it's hard to know how much worse or better something is for audio equipment, unlike CPUs and GPUs where you can look at the numbers. I mean, if those Ultrasones blow a € 150 set of cans out of the water then it's a no-brainer but if the differences are more subtle... I do have to say that my hearing is above average (in terms of being able to discern quality differences between audio equipment)
Right now, my G35 sounds like a € 20 set to me with ridiculous bass and they're insanely uncomfortable (perhaps it's my head, I don't know).

Yea, it's hard to miss the "beats"-hate if you frequent these forums enough biggrin.gif . They're gadgets, like a lot of the tech nowadays frown.gif .

Sorry about the reply in regards to Sony, it was a bit too much.
But I tend to make my posts longer than they need to be redface.gif
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Hug man biggrin.gif

We're good, don't worry mate biggrin.gif

As for the ultrasones, yeah they do blow 150 euro cans out of the water, as for beats, they are, just.... horrible. I mean have a look at the skullcandy aviators, again around 160 euros, but you need to understand, the difference between 80 euro cans and 150 euro cans is noticeable and by a lot as well. It's not something I like doing (in fact I hate going over budgets). However in this instance it's worth it.

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Edited by compuman145 - 12/12/12 at 5:26am
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Then it's pretty much settled smile.gif

Thanks for the help and advice


Not entirely sure yet after giving it some thought. It's € 200 after all...

Anyone who has experience / opinion about the Denon AH-D1100 ? (I like Denon and I like the price and design (I know, stupid reasons !) )

EDIT: Looks like the Denons are very flimsy frown.gif

EDIT: Audio Technica ATH M50? Thoughts?
Edited by Bloitz - 12/12/12 at 11:28am
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Going to shamelessly bump my own thread for these 2 questions since I think people might think this is already resolved:

1) Would the Asus Xonar DG(X) deliver the same sound quality as the Xonar DX? Does the DX have the heaphone amp as well? I really want to be sure.
Not sure which card I would buy for myself yet, but probably at least a DG(X) for my brother (Sennheiser PC350) for christmas.

2) Audio Technica ATH-M50 (€ 150) vs Ultrasone Pro 550 (€ 200) ? Thoughts? EDIT: This is probably one of those moments where I want to save some money but end up with the rubbish stuff and suffer from buyer's remorse later on. Going to go with the Ultrasone Pro 550's . I'll put my dog on a diet and just work the curb a few nights.
Edited by Bloitz - 12/12/12 at 12:20pm
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