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After about a month of using windows 8, ive decided to reinstall win7 on all my rigs.
Here are many reasons why:

WINDOWS 7
Workstation: 8/10
Gaming: 9/10

WINDOWS 8
Workstation: 8/10
Gaming: 3/10


WINDOWS 8

PROS:
- Boots in less than 10 seconds with over a dozen icons on the desktop
- Shutsdown in less than 5 seconds
- Tablet interface gives you quick access online, there are apps where you integrate facebook, watch tv, listen to live radio

CONS:
- Takes multiple moves just to reach the shutdown button
- Exhausting to navigate, you have to create shortcuts for harddrives since "my computer" was removed
- Windows key+R opens command prompt but you cant right click and run as admin so you have to search for it and right click the result
- Control Panel, Device Manager, are not easily accessible
- VLC player stutters sometimes when playing a video
- Lost 5-10 FPS in a few games like MW3 and NBA2k13
- Steam crashes when activating a product
- Steam crashes when resuming a download
- Steam crashes when browsing games
- Steam has a 99% chance of crashing


Conclusion:
Windows 8 feels more like a free tablet OS like Android, and not a general purpose OS. It's something I would recommend to older folk like my mom who only uses her computer a few times a week for facebooking, skype, and similar tasks.

If you are a medium-heavy user that does graphics, programming, video editing, or gaming, stick with windows 7.
Majority of gamers also have at least 75% of their games on steam, and steam clearly doesnt work well with windows 8.

Im gonna wait for a service pack update before I try win8 again. And ill probably use an intel rig, it seems to have less issues compared to my two amd rigs


-edit the photoshop problem was caused by incompatible ATI driver, ive just tried using CS6 32bit and its fine.
Edited by edalbkrad - 12/14/12 at 11:33am
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Hey buddy.

 

I wonder why you gave Win8 3 out of 10 for gaming?

 

With my setup gaming under Win 8 is exactly same as Win 7

 

perhaps something wrong with Ati drivers?

 

Also seems like some of the problems you have are isolated issues as I never had Steam crashing on me in Win 8. Let alone, steam I never had anything crash on me. I just hate that Creative did not come up with Win 8 official drivers for my soundcard and my soundcard is not performing as great, but this is actually Creative's fault. But anyhow, I gave up on that soundcard and will order a new one soon.

 

I do agree about the other cons though. Even shutting down the PC is a few clicks more of a task. I got used to it and I like it but the accesibility issues might be a problem for power users.

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ctrl-alt-del then hit shutdown - no biggy.
Steam crashes? - not on mine.
no ctrl-panel? Put it as a tile on your panel. Along with ANY OHER shortcut you need? kookoo.gif
Steam crashes 99%? - You have an issue. Mine has never crashed.

PEBKAC.
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The only bad things I have to say about Windows 8...

When you install a program your start screen gets littered with tiles for all the things that used to go into neat organized folders in the Start menu. Installing things like QTP, Visual Studio and PhotoShop each made countless icons that I had to go and unpin for the start screen.

I came to rely on Gadgets a lot...I am using the 8GadgetPack to bring back Gadgets to my Windows 8, but it isn't 100% stable...some times my gadgets will not start on boot up.

I too miss just taping the windows key, pressing the arrow key over and hitting enter to log off or shut down, ctrl-alt-delete and selecting something is just as difficult as mousing over to the corner.

And finally...how the hell do you close a PDF or picture that you open in the built in viewers? There is no window with a "X", right clicking does not bring up a close option, Esc does nothing...the only ways I've figured out to do this is to hit Windows key + d to get to the desktop or opening the start screen. In both cases the item is still open and running in the back ground though. Apps are the same way. I installed I Heart Radio and the only way I can see to actually shut off the app is to kill it in the task manager. I've wondered if that is why they made the new task manager because you basically need it up all the time.


As side from these gripes...it seems fine to me. I see no difference performance wise...though I think Windows 7 actually booted faster for me due to the Gadgets being native. Adding the gadgets to Windows 8 added a few seconds to my boot time...more than a few depending on if they launch or not. If they don't start it will freeze for a bit making it take about 30 seconds to get going and give me the message that the gadgets couldn't start. Some times it will just lock up completely

Since I have it set up I am going to use it...unless the gadget thing gets too much for me, but the next format I do will not have Windows 8 going back on my machine. I haven't seen any advantage to it. I haven't even bothered to make a base image for Windows 8
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I gave it a low score on gaming because I also got lower fps compared to win7. I just forgot to mention.

When i saw the reviews of win 8 stating it would provide a little fps boost, i was disappointed that not only did i get similar fps, I lost some fps in a few of my games.

NBA2k13 ran at 120 fps on win7, while win8 ran at 105 fps. Its quite a big loss even though its not noticeable on a 60hz monitor.


Ive tolerated the photoshop flickering white screen but my eyes are starting to hurt.
Disabling gpu acceleration in photoshop also doesnt do anything.
My screen will flicker whitescreen when i move my mouse very fast, paint very fast, or zoom in/out.

I also forgot to mention that VLC player stutters once or twice for every video Ive played.
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I am not going to address you point by point but many of your complaints about windows 8 are because you don't know how to use it efficiently. not joking and no disrespect meant.

edit:

win + x or right click personalize or right click bottom left hand corner handles the majority if not all of your navigation issues. and the crashes are to do with something else entirely. I use win8 on all my rigs, laptop and tablet. yes there was a learning curve but I am now much faster with windows than I was with win7.

please don't let ignorance be your beacon.
Edited by gammite - 12/12/12 at 10:11am
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If you are a medium-heavy user that does graphics, programming, video editing, or gaming, stick with windows 7.
Majority of gamers also have at least 75% of their games on steam, and steam clearly doesnt work well with windows 8.

I am a true power user. I do all of these things on a daily basis. I don't have time to game like that but I still do game and I have none of those issues.
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And finally...how the hell do you close a PDF or picture that you open in the built in viewers? There is no window with a "X", right clicking does not bring up a close option, Esc does nothing...the only ways I've figured out to do this is to hit Windows key + d to get to the desktop or opening the start screen. In both cases the item is still open and running in the back ground though. Apps are the same way. I installed I Heart Radio and the only way I can see to actually shut off the app is to kill it in the task manager. I've wondered if that is why they made the new task manager because you basically need it up all the time.

It is not intuitive, they dont tell you this but to close the "metro" style apps

you go to the top of your screen in the middle, you will notice your cursor turns into a hand, you then click and drag down. as if throwing it away.

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I gave it a low score on gaming because I also got lower fps compared to win7. I just forgot to mention.
When i saw the reviews of win 8 stating it would provide a little fps boost, i was disappointed that not only did i get similar fps, I lost some fps in a few of my games.
NBA2k13 ran at 120 fps on win7, while win8 ran at 105 fps. Its quite a big loss even though its not noticeable on a 60hz monitor.
Ive tolerated the photoshop flickering white screen but my eyes are starting to hurt.
Disabling gpu acceleration in photoshop also doesnt do anything.
My screen will flicker whitescreen when i move my mouse very fast, paint very fast, or zoom in/out.
I also forgot to mention that VLC player stutters once or twice for every video Ive played.

I am sure u are having driver and or chipset issues. are you sure that u have the right drivers?
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It is not intuitive, they dont tell you this but to close the "metro" style apps
you go to the top of your screen in the middle, you will notice your cursor turns into a hand, you then click and drag down. as if throwing it away.
thumb.gif

....
Seriously...
...

Who came up with that? LOL they are so going on my top ten list of people I'd like to slap.

Thanks though I obviously haven't researched it all as it wasn't that big of a deal, heh...though it might still be easier to just kill them in the task manager.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 12/12/12 at 10:21am
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