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They better get started, it will take some years to completely roll it out if/when they do.

I believe it would be a solid investment though, makes you wonder what the big ISP's would do to retain their customers. Price war? biggrin.gif

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Initial cost of deployment, cost of operation which includes service workers the on going maintanice and the service itself will make 11 billion look sick.
Gross income numbers are not even close to the actual net income google would acquire
A ballpark would be 10-20% of that number once the deployment costs are recovered

Quite true, but investing in a city with a dense population (such as NYC) could majorly subsidize those expenses. If you just imagine a major apartment complex installing google fiber, then 80% of the residents utilize that service, then I think the risk is worth it.
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They better get started, it will take some years to completely roll it out if/when they do.
I believe it would be a solid investment though, makes you wonder what the big ISP's would do to retain their customers. Price war? biggrin.gif
Price and service war, which is exactly what google's move in KC was meant to spark.
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Initial cost of deployment, cost of operation which includes service workers the on going maintanice and the service itself will make 11 billion look sick.
Gross income numbers are not even close to the actual net income google would acquire
A ballpark would be 10-20% of that number once the deployment costs are recovered

Quite true, but investing in a city with a dense population (such as NYC) could majorly subsidize those expenses. If you just imagine a major apartment complex installing google fiber, then 80% of the residents utilize that service, then I think the risk is worth it.

You also have to understand that not all people will use Google fibre if it is brought to the city.
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Quite true, but investing in a city with a dense population (such as NYC) could majorly subsidize those expenses. If you just imagine a major apartment complex installing google fiber, then 80% of the residents utilize that service, then I think the risk is worth it.

The problem is in assuming 80% are going to use it. A lot of people will just stick with their cable or whatever.


What you really need to help is probably a subsidy of some sort, like a temporary property tax.
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The problem is in assuming 80% are going to use it. A lot of people will just stick with their cable or whatever.
What you really need to help is probably a subsidy of some sort, like a temporary property tax.

I'm not an expert, and obviously none of us know what the future holds or decisions people would make. But I would contend a significant majority of people would be willing to switch in a heartbeat, especially if google's pricing plan stays the same. You get a way better service, that is of higher quality, for as much as or significantly less than people are paying for right now. So based upon current business models of ISPs, I think it's safe to say a very high percentage of people would be willing to drop their current ISP for Google.

Also, subsidizing this business would certainly help to jump start the competition in metropolitan areas, and hopefully light a fire under the current ISP regime, I think that's a great idea to entice Google into expanding smile.gif

That being said, obviously ISPs could change their pricepoint to compete with Google's low prices, which is something I'm sure Google is also considering, but even then we as consumers still benefit, so it's pretty much a win-win-win thumb.gif
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I'm not an expert, and obviously none of us know what the future holds or decisions people would make. But I would contend a significant majority of people would be willing to switch in a heartbeat, especially if google's pricing plan stays the same. You get a way better service, that is of higher quality, for as much as or significantly less than people are paying for right now. So based upon current business models of ISPs, I think it's safe to say a very high percentage of people would be willing to drop their current ISP for Google.
Also, subsidizing this business would certainly help to jump start the competition in metropolitan areas, and hopefully light a fire under the current ISP regime, I think that's a great idea to entice Google into expanding smile.gif
That being said, obviously ISPs could change their pricepoint to compete with Google's low prices, which is something I'm sure Google is also considering, but even then we as consumers still benefit, so it's pretty much a win-win-win thumb.gif

I'm sure lots will switch, but you aren't going to get anything like 80% in a building. Lots of people have Century Link for internet in the Seattle area even though for the same price you can get 3x faster internet from Comcast... they just don't care as the current speed is more then they use.
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To give how much will Google get Monthly excluding the cost of maintenace and other billz..
Lets say NYC had 8mil people
each one had $120/mo plan (TV and internet)
8mil x 120 = 960mil/mo google is getting
in one year, google makes $11bil
now thats alot of $

You're assuming that everyone would be using the $120 plan and that that $120 would be net profit. You're completely ignoring operating costs.
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I'm not an expert, and obviously none of us know what the future holds or decisions people would make. But I would contend a significant majority of people would be willing to switch in a heartbeat, especially if google's pricing plan stays the same. You get a way better service, that is of higher quality, for as much as or significantly less than people are paying for right now. So based upon current business models of ISPs, I think it's safe to say a very high percentage of people would be willing to drop their current ISP for Google.
Also, subsidizing this business would certainly help to jump start the competition in metropolitan areas, and hopefully light a fire under the current ISP regime, I think that's a great idea to entice Google into expanding smile.gif
That being said, obviously ISPs could change their pricepoint to compete with Google's low prices, which is something I'm sure Google is also considering, but even then we as consumers still benefit, so it's pretty much a win-win-win thumb.gif

I'm sure lots will switch, but you aren't going to get anything like 80% in a building. Lots of people have Century Link for internet in the Seattle area even though for the same price you can get 3x faster internet from Comcast... they just don't care as the current speed is more then they use.

For me, give my affordable 40mbps.
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I've been wondering...has property values been rising in Kansas City? If I get a job offer I would so move there...and my guess is that IT jobs are going to be booming there soon. I would think every one would want in on the fast Internet

...but then I am geek. You know your a geek if you would move your entire family to a different state to get faster Internet. Business management type probably could care less about the Google Fiber.
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