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Originally Posted by byardz View Post

That is never the case, plenty of games like SF4 PC for example were pirated over 4 million times and yet never broke 1 million copies sold.
Stop making excuses

Maybe you should listen. I've said it before, and so have others: there is no way to accurately determine pirating statistics.

Also, "That is never the case..." is a fallacy of accident
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Let's just say piracy is the reason why console dictates the PCs future in terms of games.
The next gen of mind blowing games doesn't come until CONSOLES say so, not PC.
It was never like this until 2006-Present.

And? Correlation does not equal causation. Games were easier to pirate before the days of the XBOX 360 and PS3. Developers were able to code and port games from consoles after that, and that's the reason why consoles dictate next-gen 'mind-blowing' games. It has nothing to do with pirating.
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post #32 of 43
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I think piracy hurts the crappy games more than the good ones. If it's a gem ppl will turn around and buy it, pay you for the good job you did coding it.

lol, plenty of good games have sold way less than the amount they were pirated.

Crysis
Bioshock
Gears of War PC
GTA 4
SF4 PC

Just to name a few
post #33 of 43
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Let's just say piracy is the reason why console dictates the PCs future in terms of games.
The next gen of mind blowing games doesn't come until CONSOLES say so, not PC.
It was never like this until 2006-Present.

Except that it is not. Economics and player base is the reason for that. When the PC was the big dog the PC drove the design decisions, despite higher piracy rates. That of course is changing with the diversification of computing devices, not to mention the rise of PC titles being released.

The cold hard fact is that modern AAA development is more expensive than ever, with some games costing developers and publishers over $100 million to make. They take huge teams of 100's of experienced people years to make. You can't do that on only one platform and be profitable.

This problem is going to get worse before it gets better. If you think the next consoles are going to see a huge increase in graphical fidelity I think you will be disappointed. I have spoken with developers who have told me that labor increases a lot as you add graphical fidelity and that is a big part of why AAA games today seem so much smaller and shorter than they did 10 years ago. You think that piracy is the big bugaboo preventing the utopia of the glorious PC only game but I have to tell you that just is not true.
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I think OP just likes to pick fights and argue. LOL.
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1 No way to accurately determine how many times a game is pirated

2 I run a gaming community. Not one person mentioned this game. Heck, I didn't even know about it until I read this article.
 
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1 No way to accurately determine how many times a game is pirated
2 I run a gaming community. Not one person mentioned this game. Heck, I didn't even know about it until I read this article.

It is a great game that everyone should at least check out.
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My response to this is, I watched the video review on IGN and while it looked like it had good potential, I can't see myself playing a game such as this for more than 30 minutes without losing my attention on the game. I like how it's laid out and has numerous references to historical games but I don't want to spend time thinking about retro games, I want to hear about the new stuff.

About the piracy aspect on this game, too many people probably seen what I saw when watching the video review and wanted to try the game but not buy it. If a game has a powerful message or something that keeps the player intact, I find those games tend to pull in the most buyers. Games such as this, even though it's a pity, get pirated the most.

I for one would love to see titles such as this, but I'm still too hooked on games that came before it to go out of my way (aka use my well earned money to purchase) this title. Would make a great stocking stuffer tho!
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Good game or crappy game - piracy is amount to stealing. I never done it and will never condone it. It is sad to see so many people think piracy is ok.
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Piracy will never die and wasting time on creating anti piracy ways is retarded (Like DRM) they should just accept it,i know pirating is bad but what else can we do
     
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Man, you really are something.
Keep trying to sugar coat and defend piracy, these statistics are legit.
Look it up yourself instead if ignorantly defending piracy
okay?

Those statistics are not legit because there is no way to determine pirating numbers without a large degree of error. This is a fact, and anyone with any logical thoughts could come to this conclusion.

You have the reading and understanding capacity of a gerbil.
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