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Originally Posted by Stoffie View Post

doh.gif oh dear, help me build a budget AMD rig... I didn't realise AMD built i3's...

Oh mah bad.

You can get an FX 8320 for $170 combo'd with a Sabertooth for $130

Total to $545 with the new CPU and mobo. $35 for case, I'd recommend an NZXT Source 210
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Originally Posted by NeonRed3mption View Post

I switched mobo's, why would they not work together?

They didn't have the right socket type.

That board you linked had AM3+ socket while the APU uses FM2 socket. Something to keep in mind when building computer.
post #12 of 26
Why not go with this? doesn't leave much for a case but if you plan to buy farcry 3 and hitman absolution it will free up 60$, this would be a decent rig for a while, 2gb of Vram, 6 core processor and you can upgrade to steam roller in 2014?

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post #13 of 26
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I switched mobo's, why would they not work together?

What he means is that you cant hybrid crossfire them. Which makes it being pointless to either buy an APU or a dedicated graphics card.


^This is my proposed build.
It is scratching the 600 dollars and it has no case, but it will give you loads of fun for a long time.
You can buy a cheapo case for 20 dollars, it will be good enough for it.
post #14 of 26
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Something like this should work for you:
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I second Anthony20022's suggestion; that's a very nice system. You could also get a HD 6670 and Crossfire it with the APU, though that sometimes causes some issues that don't affect single-GPU setups. Also, you could upgrade to a A10-5800k for ~$20 more, in order to increase your graphics power without using a discrete card.
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What games do you play op other than planetside 2? What size monitor and resolution do you have?
Edited by Stoffie - 12/13/12 at 12:42am
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post #16 of 26
The a8 / any APU would choke on planetside 2.

As this is a budget build, why not consider a phenom II? they are capable processors too and smack the crap outta the APU's. They are dirt cheap at the moment too, and paired with an AM3+ 990 board you could have room for steamroller later.

They can also handle any single GPU config at the moment.

i think microcenter had an 840 for 39.99? with the 40$ motherboard off deal too.

Then again i am from the UK lol
Edited by Noctizzle - 12/13/12 at 12:52am
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The a8 / any APU would choke on planetside 2.
As this is a budget build, why not consider a phenom II? they are capable processors too and smack the crap outta the APU's. They are dirt cheap at the moment too, and paired with an AM3+ 990 board you could have room for steamroller later.
They can also handle any single GPU config at the moment.
i think microcenter had an 840 for 39.99? with the 40$ motherboard off deal too.
Then again i am from the UK lol

Why not consider a Phenom II? Maybe because the A10-5800K slightly faster than the Phenom II 975, has fully integrated USB 3.0/SATA 6GB/s, an integrated northbirdge and will allow for Richland which be on the FM2 socket. Not to mention the iGPU is powerful enough for mild gaming if he ever needed a backup. With HSA around the corner you can't go wrong.
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According to the roadmap, AMD Richland APU would not feature the steamroller core architecture but instead would be based on the current generation x86 Piledriver core architecture which is currently being used within the recently launched Trinity APUs. Along with it, ARM cores would also be fused on the same die for AMD’s HSA (Heterogeneous System Architecture) enhancements. The APUs would remain compatible with the FM2 socket boards and would be include the latest Radeon Cores 2.0 which would presumable fall under the HD 8000 series (Sea Islands) specs. The AMD Richland APU would be the mainstream/performance entry level chips and would launch around mid-2013.

Edited by M3T4LM4N222 - 12/13/12 at 12:57am
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The only way you any of you should be suggesting an APU with a discrete graphic card is if that discrete graphic card is an 6670.

Because there is NO reason to purchase an APU with a normal discrete like 7850/7870..
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post #19 of 26
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Why not consider a Phenom II? Maybe because the A10-5800K slightly faster than the Phenom II 975, has fully integrated USB 3.0/SATA 6GB/s, an integrated northbirdge and will allow for Richland which be on the FM2 socket. Not to mention the iGPU is powerful enough for mild gaming if he ever needed a backup. With HSA around the corner you can't go wrong.

The phenom II would leave him more money for the GPU though, which in this case would be better for him. the A10 sits between the 965 and the 980 i suppose.

Also, if he wanted to go beastier in the future, and picked up an AM3+ with 990FX chipset, he could get the higher end CPU later in the future that may or may not spank richland. But i assume AMD are aiming for steamroller to spank richland so...
Edited by Noctizzle - 12/13/12 at 1:03am
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The phenom II would leave him more money for the GPU though, which in this case would be better for him. Also, i thought the A10 was a lot weaker than the phenom II's.

That may be a common misconception - but they're neck and neck in nearly every situation. They're also neck and neck in gaming. It's not crazy either. The Phenom II 965 was AMD's top gun in 2009, now their lower end CPU's compete with there top of the line 3 years ago.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/675?vs=102


I also doubt you'd be able to find a BNIB Phenom II X4 (965/975) for much cheaper than $120 considering I see the 955 sell for $100 all the time. Even if you could find a Phenom II 965 for $30 cheaper i'd spend the extra $30 and go with the APU. You'd have the same performance but more features and sensible upgrade path. Steamrollers been pushed back so all AM3+ will see is Vishera 2.0.
Edited by M3T4LM4N222 - 12/13/12 at 1:06am
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