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Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post

E8400>Q6600
mucho mucho
Sorry Corky..I know I sold you that Q6600..but e8400 is much mo' bettah fer gamins'
lol talk about backstabbing, jk friend.
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post #22 of 32
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Originally Posted by wierdo124 View Post

E6300 is an original 65nm Conroe, e8400 is a 45nm wolfdale

There was two E6300's. Conroe and Wolfdale. I had a Conroe so I remember the confusion (was my first ever build P965). Don't think there was an E6400 Wolfdale though.
post #23 of 32
I had an E8400 - nice CPU but as someone else said, a core 2 quad will kick it's ass and be a cheap upgrade - I looked a while back and there's still a bit of resale value on the E8400, so I reckon the best thing to do on a tight budget would be max out your current board with the best quad you can afford like a 9550 or similar - they do run quite hot though (a ton hotter than the 8400) so you'll need decent cooling.

After I did that upgrade, my next upgrade was to my current 2600k, and again it makes the 9550 (or 9650, can't exactly remember which I had) look slow, but given that you'd need a motherboard and RAM as well, I can't really see it as a good upgrade on a tight budget especially now that Sandy is getting on a bit - I'd get the C2Q and save the extra money towards a big upgrade in a couple of years.
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Originally Posted by corky dorkelson View Post

I am having major bottlenecks with Q6600 @ 3.4ghz and a GTX560 (non-ti)
I can't get the GPU load up high at all, on many newer games.
On games that love cores (many games now do) you are screwed. redface.gif
775 just isn't worth investing in anymore...period. I hate to say it.
i had a similar setup, Q6600 @ 3.1GHz paired with my HD 5850 and i never experienced any bottleneck. 99% usage all the time on BF3.

also i remember i used to have an E7500 @ 3.66GHz and i tried pairing it on my 5850 as well and it played 32 players tdm on BF3 no problem. so i think op's E8400 @ 4GHz would still keep up even better.
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Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post

E8400>Q6600
mucho mucho
Sorry Corky..I know I sold you that Q6600..but e8400 is much mo' bettah fer gamins'. yessir.gif:
Think it's the bigger cache.
e8400=4Ghz..no problem..Higher IPC than Deneb/Thuban, too.
Good for gaming.
next there's i5 750 n stuff..
>>Stiil rememberin how much that q6600 wuz stressin mah PSU eek.gif
Look @ the SuperPi difference between e8400 and q6600 to get an indication. smile.gif

Yes the 8400 is better than the 6600 clock for clock, I know. It's not as big of a difference as you are making it though...20% tops. Well, considering many new games are getting usage of 4 cores, that difference gets vaporized. In games that use 4 cores, the 6600 wins every time.

Moving past that......the q9550 is the cheapest direct route for more performance. And as I said....it's essentially 2 more cores of the same performance as his 8400. Is that worth the $120-150 he will need to spend to get one? That is his call. I personally would sell the board and CPU and ram on ebay, take the money I would have spent on a 9550, and roll that all up into a i3/i5 rig that will dominate. 775 sucks. There, I said it. Thought I never would.
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Had an E8600. Was an absolute beast at 4.8ghz
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post #27 of 32
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Originally Posted by corky dorkelson View Post

Yes the 8400 is better than the 6600 clock for clock, I know. It's not as big of a difference as you are making it though...20% tops. Well, considering many new games are getting usage of 4 cores, that difference gets vaporized. In games that use 4 cores, the 6600 wins every time.
Moving past that......the q9550 is the cheapest direct route for more performance. And as I said....it's essentially 2 more cores of the same performance as his 8400. Is that worth the $120-150 he will need to spend to get one? That is his call. I personally would sell the board and CPU and ram on ebay, take the money I would have spent on a 9550, and roll that all up into a i3/i5 rig that will dominate. 775 sucks. There, I said it. Thought I never would.

I agree. 775 sucks today. Not worth putting money into it. I wonder how a ivy dual core would compare to a E8600
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post #28 of 32
A G850 outperforms the E8400 in Anandtech Benchs (scroll down)
E8400 vs G850 ~ $70 Sandy Bridge Pentium
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/56?vs=404

G850 vs Q6600
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/404?vs=53

Q6600 vs E8400
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/53?vs=56

E8400 vs Q9550
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/56?vs=50

Q9560 vs i3 3220$120
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/49?vs=677

Q9560 vs I5 3570K at $215
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/49?vs=677

Unless you can find used better 775 processors (possibly prices have dropped without my noticing, I would like to upgrade an E6700 3.2) are not worth while.
There have been some interesting I7 750/920 motherboard/cpu combos around $200. Forum market places.
post #29 of 32
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Could someone explain the socket situation to me for Intel?

I haven't had time to pay as much attention lately. Seems like the way they're going they'll be three sockets ahead in another couple years.

Frankly Q9550 prices are straight up too high to justify. If i could get one for $70 or so I might do it, but their current prices just ain't worth it.
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Probably best google wikipedia.
LGA 775
LGA 1156 first Core series chip set, video on chip begins?
LGA 1356 High End, triple memory,
LGA 1155 Sandy Bridge CPUs, second generation Core Chips, dual channel memory, introduced with P67 no video, H67 no overclock motherboards, Z68 followed, video and overclock support, H61 basic
LGA 2011 Sandy Bridge Core Extreme, quad channel memory,
LGA 1155 Ivy Bridge CPUs, "tock" (improvement)?, third generation Core CPUs, dual channel memory, Z77, Z75, B75, H61 MOTHERBOARDS
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