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Hi, my friend wants to upgrade his rig.

Cpu: AMD Athlon II X4 640
Cpu cooler: cooler master hyper n 520 92mm
Motherboard: Msi 890gxm-65
Gpu: Msi 5830 twin frozr II
Ram:G.SKILL Ripjaws 1600 12gb 2 4gb and 2 2gb
Storage: 1tb western digital black , 64gb crucial m4 ssd
Case: Antec 300
OS: windows 7 64bit home

He wants to upgrade his cpu and gpu for better gaming performance. I was thinking maybe switching his motherboard and cpu would be a better switch for down the road. I was thinking a Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz and a MSI Z77A-G41 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 motherboard.
cpu is 214.99 and motherboard is 95 his budget is around 200-300.

Would it be better to stay with amd and upgrade cpu and gpu or to switch to intel or save up for a new build.
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I think he should save up seeing as new graphics cards (Radeon 8xxx) and CPU's (Intel Haswell) will be here soon biggrin.gif
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switch to intel and save, sell those amd parts.
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post #4 of 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gdubz22 View Post

Hi, my friend wants to upgrade his rig.
Cpu: AMD Athlon II X4 640
Cpu cooler: cooler master hyper n 520 92mm
Motherboard: Msi 890gxm-65
Gpu: Msi 5830 twin frozr II
Ram:G.SKILL Ripjaws 1600 12gb 2 4gb and 2 2gb
Storage: 1tb western digital black , 64gb crucial m4 ssd
Case: Antec 300
OS: windows 7 64bit home
He wants to upgrade his cpu and gpu for better gaming performance. I was thinking maybe switching his motherboard and cpu would be a better switch for down the road. I was thinking a Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz and a MSI Z77A-G41 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 motherboard.
cpu is 214.99 and motherboard is 95 his budget is around 200-300.
Would it be better to stay with amd and upgrade cpu and gpu or to switch to intel or save up for a new build.

What games is he playing?

A Piledriver based cpu (4300 or 6300, assuming mobo can support am3+) and a gpu in the $180-$200 range would be quite an improvement overall.

However, the upgrade path really does depend on what games he plays. Some will benefit more from just a $300 gpu upgrade vs cpu upgrade/weaker gpu upgrade, let alone spending the entire 300 just to swap to intel.
Edited by SoloCamo - 12/12/12 at 6:44pm
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The games he mostly plays would probably be wow but he also plays games like skyrim and rts.
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post #6 of 8
Still depends on what RTS games. If he plays a lot of SC2, then a CPU upgrade would be big for him. Are there any other big RTS titles out there?

You may want to switch to Intel if he's not an overclocker & plays CPU-dependent games. WoW is kind of a wash as it doesn't have super-high system requirements but you don't have a killer CPU or GPU anyway. Skyrim can use a better CPU but will probably benefit from a better GPU more. And, as for RTS games, well see my first two sentences. tongue.gif
    
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I'd say slap a Deneb in there,overclock it, and get the biggest GPU you can.

unless he plays ARMA ..Then Intel

Intel CPUs do give better framerates..and smoother gameplay;but Denebs are still fine for gaming,especially if overclocked.
 
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post #8 of 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gdubz22 View Post

Hi, my friend wants to upgrade his rig.
Cpu: AMD Athlon II X4 640
Cpu cooler: cooler master hyper n 520 92mm
Motherboard: Msi 890gxm-65
Gpu: Msi 5830 twin frozr II
Ram:G.SKILL Ripjaws 1600 12gb 2 4gb and 2 2gb
Storage: 1tb western digital black , 64gb crucial m4 ssd
Case: Antec 300
OS: windows 7 64bit home
He wants to upgrade his cpu and gpu for better gaming performance. I was thinking maybe switching his motherboard and cpu would be a better switch for down the road. I was thinking a Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz and a MSI Z77A-G41 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 motherboard.
cpu is 214.99 and motherboard is 95 his budget is around 200-300.
Would it be better to stay with amd and upgrade cpu and gpu or to switch to intel or save up for a new build.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gdubz22 View Post

The games he mostly plays would probably be wow but he also plays games like skyrim and rts.
I think your friend should sell the CPU and the GPU, get a Phenom II with an unlocked multiplier, and get a HD 7850.
This model would be pretty good (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127688), though what resolution would your friend be playing at?
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