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No I understand it is a cause for concern. I know that it shows that, but it also shows that I'm running PCI-E 3.0, which isn't true. My gpu is 3.0 capable, so I didn't know if it was showing what it's capable of or what it's really running at on my system.

this is what it says about your motherboards x4 slot on the specs page:

*1: The PCIe x16_3 slot shares bandwidth with PCIe x1_1 slot, PCIe x1_2 slot, USB3_34 and eSATA. The PCIe x16_3 default setting is in x1 mode.

So it seems it only shares bandwidth with the other x1 slots and usb3 and esata.

So your good to go.
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I just saw the pcb on this card and it looks pretty barren. That has me questioning the quality of this card to be honest.

Has anyone tried a 250ohm beyer on one of these cards? Will it get them loud?
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I just saw the pcb on this card and it looks pretty barren. That has me questioning the quality of this card to be honest.

Has anyone tried a 250ohm beyer on one of these cards? Will it get them loud?

On the Z? It does look rather barren, but it is full height, so there's a lot of space to work with. Some pretty high-quality audio designs can be stuffed into small PCB areas, and high-end (but not cutting-edge) performance can be gotten without some huge esoteric parts. It's not the size that counts, but how...

Creative's site says full-scale output level for headphone output is 1.3V rms for 33 ohms, 2V rms for 600 ohms. That either means it's current-limited at 33 ohms, or there is just roughly 20 ohms output impedance. If output impedance were higher than that, full-scale output into 33 ohms would be smaller relative to the full-scale output for 600 ohms. For 250 ohms, you'd be getting some 1.9V or so output. Or around 2V, if output impedance is low and it was just an output power limitation at 33 ohms, but 1.9V vs. 2V is not exactly a big difference. Beyer's spec of 96 dB SPL / 1 mW for the headphones implies some 108 dB SPL max output. InnerFidelity measured 0.38 mW required for 90 dB SPL on the DT 880 250 ohms, so 1.9V would mean about 106 dB SPL.

That's probably enough for most people and most music. I'd consider that loud. If you have volume reduced from some kind of heavy subtractive EQ or need a lot of range to for hitting a decent average volume on very wide dynamic range material, then probably not.

Hopefully somebody's tried it and has some impressions, relative to some other gear too.
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Newegg has released a new video with the marketing guy from Creative talking about the ZXR.

Its really bad since he mixes up all the components on the board and doesnt know the difference between OPAMPs, DAC's and the headphone amp chips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzrvRkjaDNM&feature=share&list=PLfxaMTbBYP5nMm7L-ZVZ6n3O-Y5ZHU7pE

EDIT: The ZXR is now available on the creative site for sale.

http://us.store.creative.com/Creative-Sound-Blaster-ZxR-PCIe-Sound/M/B00AQ5PK6I.htm
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With my ath-ad700's I need to have the ACM dial around 2:00 to get to a decent volume out of the headphones with volume set at max on the computer.
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With my ath-ad700's I need to have the ACM dial around 2:00 to get to a decent volume out of the headphones with volume set at max on the computer.

Wait what?
I thought the ACM dial was supposed to control the digital volume in windows? That's what the creative rep had said.
    
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The dial is independent. The SB software has a master volume setting that ties to the OS volume, but not the dial.
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Wait what?
I thought the ACM dial was supposed to control the digital volume in windows? That's what the creative rep had said.

 

Your speaker has it own volume knob except your headphones won't have any and this where ACM comes in.

 
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Your speaker has it own volume knob except your headphones won't have any and this where ACM comes in.
Ya I understand that. Its just that I had read somewhere one of the creative reps said it would directly control the windows digital volume similar to the volume control on a keyboard.

I guess that's not possible with just 3.5 mm connections.
    
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Ya I understand that. Its just that I had read somewhere one of the creative reps said it would directly control the windows digital volume similar to the volume control on a keyboard.

I guess that's not possible with just 3.5 mm connections.

 

The ACM is not a powered device but a bypass only. So yeah, rep is wrong about it.

 
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