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Ok looking at this with Analog with don't get the Center channel speaker?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/677/2

I've modded the speaker decoder to get 5.1 analog biggrin.gif

When I got the X-Fi after Audigy 2 ZS, I realized that no new cards support the Digital Din 5.1 analog connection and I've had to mod it to accept 5.1 3x3.5mm to 6x RCA plugs
post #2082 of 5537
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mod it to accept 5.1 3x3.5mm to 6x RCA plugs

you mean just using 3 3.5>RCA cables? my amp uses that and came with them...

the ultimate reason I moved from my X-Fi Forte was due to the annoying driver bugs and recurring crackle, I had to go the the sound devices and disable > enable the speaker output to stop it crackling, power wise this Zx is about the same as the Forte, possibly more powerful, for one thing if I plug basic earbuds to the ACM you have to have it at <10% volume on the knob or you'll blow them to pieces...
(card volume always set to 50% for the Zx)
   
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you mean just using 3 3.5>RCA cables? my amp uses that and came with them...

the ultimate reason I moved from my X-Fi Forte was due to the annoying driver bugs and recurring crackle, I had to go the the sound devices and disable > enable the speaker output to stop it crackling, power wise this Zx is about the same as the Forte, possibly more powerful, for one thing if I plug basic earbuds to the ACM you have to have it at <10% volume on the knob or you'll blow them to pieces...
(card volume always set to 50% for the Zx)

DTT3500 decoder has front/rear 3.5mm IN only, so the mod adds C/SUB RCA IN inside the decoder unit. So I connect them to the card like this:

2x3.5mm Front/Rear OUT from the card to 2x3.5mm Front/Rear IN in the decoder + 1x3.5mm C/SUB OUT from the card to 2x RCA C/SUB IN to inside of the decoder.

It is funny that I can't find that mod on the internet anymore. I've been looking for it for the past year.

It is also weird that I've NEVER encountered any of the famous Creative software crap since 1998 when I got my first Ensoniq card, SB Live! 5.1 Platinum, Audigy 2 ZS, X-Fi XtremeGamer OEM SB0770, X-Fi Titanium and then SBZ.

SBZ crashed my audio twice in 3 days for switching between 5.1, Stereo Direct and Stereo though

I still can't figure out what the problem is with the messed up mixer channel control
post #2084 of 5537
Alright so currently the T1 headphones are on sale for 750$ atm vs 1300 retail so I'm gonna test my luck and grab these and see how they fair w/ the ZxR's built in amp. Haven't found any info via google on other users testing the same, granted they're summit-fi style cans.
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Question about recording: is line in preferable to mic in for this application (generally)? I would assume so. And how is the latency on the ZXR? Is the line in on the ZXR capable of accepting instrument level input?

I ask because I have the choice of hooking up an electric guitar to my ZXR either a DI box > Mic in, or to a preamp (or nothing, if the DBPro is capable of accepting instrument level input?) > Aux in (line in) on the DBPro, and would like to know the best method of going about it.
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Question for you guys, from a pure gaming stand point is the new Z range worth it or would it be better just sticking with my craptastic STX?

Thanks wheee.gif
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I've been playing with th new Z for the past few days and decided to check normal stereo headphones for virtual surround in games, movies and music. My God! what an upgrade! eek.gif

I was only using my 5.1 speakers and real 5.1 headphones and that's why I found no real difference compared to my X-Fi Titanium but with stereo headphones it all changed and the Z is truely an amazing card. I even started to like its virtual surround more than the real 5.1 which is very funny lol

Maybe that's why most people like it alot. They use high end stereo headphones and I would imagine how it would sound with them.
My $20 Koss KTXPRO1 Titanium headphones never sounded this good.

I've always had a problem in BF4 and real 5.1 sound as it is broken and never gets center channel right except in video cut scenes and voices over radeo, but with the card's virtual surround, everything is awesome.

Music and movies sound great. I've tried Thor: The Dark World and surround positioning was freaking amazing. I've even took the headphones off because the bass was too realistic I thought my 5.1 speakers are working and not muted automatically thumb.gif

On the other hand, the card doesn't seem to support WAV Multi-channel recording from "What U Hear" like my old X-Fi Titanium which is too bad.

I think I will keep both the Z and the X-Fi biggrin.gif
Edited by minaelromany - 3/4/14 at 6:58pm
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On the other hand, the card doesn't seem to support WAV Multi-channel recording from "What U Hear" like my old X-Fi Titanium which is too bad.

I think I will keep both the Z and the X-Fi biggrin.gif

it does, you jsut have to "enable it";



if I remember the X-Fis just had their own internal output mixer that was used to record it, and I think it was only stereo, or at least on my forte it was like that, programs like Fraps however that can record the 6 channels regardless are doing so via window's own audio buffers so the WhatUHear isn't used or needed for them.

if you recorded via WhatUHear though, you should get the EQ and SBX effects and maby a little better audio quality, whereas window's you're only getting what the application sends to the card, and in cases sounds bad, but at the same time you don't want EQ stacking so whether to use WhatUHear or not would depend on what you're doing, mind you I haven't meddled with that much so I'm not entirely sure if its improved since the X-Fis or not...
   
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Is anyone else's ZXR recording mono from the so-called stereo mic input? Have my recording software (Audacity) and Windows set to stereo mic input. I'm guessing this might be why I'm getting so much hiss and such low volume with CrystalVoice effects disabled. The same mic (ACM) performs admirably well hooked up to another recording device I have, with all effects disabled. Good volume and no hiss, so I suspect the ZXR having a mono input would explain the ACM mic's behaviour when hooked up to it. I'm just not sure if it's intentional, or if my card requires RMA?
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Is anyone else's ZXR recording mono from the so-called stereo mic input? Have my recording software (Audacity) and Windows set to stereo mic input. I'm guessing this might be why I'm getting so much hiss and such low volume with CrystalVoice effects disabled. The same mic (ACM) performs admirably well hooked up to another recording device I have, with all effects disabled. Good volume and no hiss, so I suspect the ZXR having a mono input would explain the ACM mic's behaviour when hooked up to it. I'm just not sure if it's intentional, or if my card requires RMA?

the ACM is only single-channel, the card's input is only single-channel when in mic mode, the second channel is used to provide power, if you wanted stereo microphone input you will need an external mic AMP and to use the input in line mode.

the ACM being a condenser mic, it will pick up everything by default, so you should enable the crystalvoice features respectively, noise reduction to kill the static and background noise, echo cancellation to kill voice echo, focus for the ACM to only focus on you, and smart volume so it adjust itself a little, I have all of these enabled with +30dB boost and 75% volume, sounds absolutely perfect provided there isn't too much background noise or I listen to bass-heavy music (the ACM picks up the sub via the desk)
   
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